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It depends on the model and age of the bike in question.
I've yet to see fault with my RR for example - the stock suspension and brakes are beyond my ability. I tested the suspension for static sag and found it required no adjustment and I haven't felt the need to twiddle the preload or rebound as I haven't felt any drawbacks from their standard settings. Ditto the brakes - more than enough in most situations. Even the screen is the right height for me - a nice balance between lifting the weight off my wrists a little with out any major buffeting at high speed.
I may consider a Power Commander, as the fuelings a little switchy downhill on a closed throttle. I may also consider an exhaust system for better road awareness and to replace the not-that-brilliantly-finished OE exhaust when the need arises. I have fitted wheel stripes though, which naturally make the bike faster. Other than that, it's completely stock.
My R6 required a decent set of tyres (and going up from a 120/60 OE fitment to a 120/70) for more confidence and I set the suspension to my body weight. The adjusters were fiddled with a little as I found it a little more difficult to find a comfortable setting as stock - I went out with a screwdriver one day and adjusted as I went. A genuine DB screen had been fitted which offered decent protection (yet funnily enough, not as comfortably as the short screen on the Honda) and I added an Akrapovic can to rid the bike of the awful OE thermos flask previously fitted. Everything else suited me fine.
My '30 on the other hand, as many have read, has had pretty much everything on it restored or modified. It's a bike that's 20 years old, so the suspension and brakes were well past their best. As money hasn't been a major set back with that thing, I bought what I wanted, rather than what the bike just 'needed', but they do add a distinct flavour to the bike and as it's tailored to me/riding style/body weight, for its uses, it's the best handling bike I've ridden. The brakes are almost as strong as my RR's (but sharper due to braided lines) and the exhaust liberates a couple of horses (which is more noticeable on a bike you spend more time using more throttle on due to its relative low output) and obviously makes a pleasant tune. Everything else has a debatable 'improvement' over stock, but I spent on such items as they complete the bike for me - they're a lot down to personal taste rather than positive requirements.
Most cost effective modification? Further rider tuition/training. The rider is usually the weakest link in modern bike setups as the machines that roll out the factories these days are truly exceptional as to what they can perform.
On older bikes, I'd say suspension and tyres. |
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| Quote: | A bike manufacturer spends millions on developing a bike |
Yep... but they have to do it inside sets of nazi like regulations so love bubbles come out rather than evil toxins...
I think an exhaust is a nice mod - mainly because of noise/emissions and the changes you can make with the exhaust do improve things a little (aftermarket makers can have a better degree of flexibility).
And another - although not quite a mod - is getting the suspension setup for both your weight and riding style - can make a huge difference to handling/acceleration/braking right away.
Double bubble is tops.
My last RR had Gear Change indicator, Gianelli Exhaust, Mushrooms, Double Bubble, Single Seat Conversion, Showa Rear Shock, Showa Forks and a couple of other bits... shouldn't have really got rid of that bike.
New one so far has (although had it a year now) Double Bubble, changed indicators & mushrooms. Over the winter a new exhaust system is going on, PC3, Suspension Setup and Single Seat Conversion. ____________________ Current Bikes: Honda CBR 600RR - '07, Suzuki GSX1250 FA ST '11
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On my hornet I have done the following:
Bar-end mirrors - much better view and a lot more stylish
Rear Hugger - keeps the majority of the crap off the already battered rear shock
Small indicators - the original (whilst effective) were rediculously big and looked stupid
Aftermarket race can - for the looks and the sound
Twin headlights - purely for the looks (no brighter)
Topbox - because I don't care what my bike looks like over winter and it makes things so much easier for college
Cigarette lighter socket - for charging items like my phone and gps.
Permanently connected battery lead - to make it easier to charge the battery before those cold mornings!
Alarm - to give me piece of mind, immobilise the bike and warn any thieves off!
Scottoiler (automatic chain oiler)
Casio wristwatch sticky taped to my handlebar risers - because I'm not rich enough to own a bike with the time displayed on the clocks!
Fender Extenda - to keep the majority of the crap of the exhaust headers and the engine
Still to come is braided brake lines, stainless exhaust headers, a few new fasteners here and there (perhaps an engine bolt kit), possibly a newer style hornet tail piece, tank pad, HH brake pads on the front when these wear out, an undertray, a bellypan.... and many more that I can't think of right now. ____________________ Summer: '00 Honda CB600F Hornet
Winter: '93 Suzuki GSF 400 Bandit VP Variable Valve
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look at an SV650, made to the absoulte budget bog standard which i say needs £250 looking at before you can use it properly.
Springs + Fork oil - £110
Rear Hugger - £60
Fenda Extenda (Front spark plug problem is common on these to go without one) - £20
R+G's - £60
The suspension is crap and the brakes aint much better. An american machine'd an adapter plate to change the 2 pot calipers to 4 pot ones from a Gixxer.
But the main thing is that the engine is reliable, easy to service with a cheap suspension rather than the other way around. ____________________ Past - CG125 ,KR1S, SV650s, Street Triple R - Current - Duke 390
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The best mod you can make to any bike is to fit tyres for the sort of riding you do. ____________________ My Flickr |
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Big Ham got hit the spot there... Tyres, make the difference to the handling of the bike and adjusts it to your personal prefernces.
Fact is, i was happiest when my bike was on dunlops, neutral steering which suited my style and worked well in all weather conditions.
The next best mod that i got was to sort out my suspension. Not a mod per se' but getting the bike to feel the way you want it to feel is a nice touch. Hagon rear shock is a marked improvement over the soggy standard rear shock.
HID headlights do me wonders when riding at night; as well as lighting up the road, it's psychologically advantageous for me because you get a cool and soothing ambience from the xenon lights.
The £140 full system i put on my bike is possibly the bargain of the century. The midrange pickup on the bike is much smoother and you get the aureal benefit too of backfires and popping on the overrun.
The 12 quid tutoro chain oiler i got from www.chainoiler.org.uk is probably my most recent practical mod - effectively a tap with a dispenser, easy to fit and doesn't rel on vacuums. All it requires is your memory to turn it on and turn it off before and after riding, and to top it up with any 10W40, 20W50 or any oil you can find. No fling on body work, nice shiney sprockets and does away with constantly having to relube your chain in the wet, every 100 miles! ____________________ The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
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By far the best mod I have EVER fitted is a new front sprocket with less teeth. Only £15 and you get more acceleration. You lose top end but hey what the hell, you cant do 180mph on roads anyway. ____________________ My current bikes are - YZF-R1 & GS 500 E
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Exhaust + Screen  ____________________ Current: Gsxr 600 Srad - GS125 - DT125
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| Kickstart wrote: | Hi
Or for the same effect and zero cost in parts just use a lower gear  .
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Indeed. Although bring the gear ratios closer together could be helpful in some situations, lowering the gearing overall on a powerful bike could result in a first gear that is all but useless. ____________________ TDM850 |
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| MC Bodge wrote: | | Kickstart wrote: | Hi
Or for the same effect and zero cost in parts just use a lower gear  .
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Indeed. Although bring the gear ratios closer together could be helpful in some situations, lowering the gearing overall on a powerful bike could result in a first gear that is all but useless. |
It depends on the bike how effective changing the gearing will be. On a tourer with large torque and a wide flat power band there will be little effect, but on a sports bike with a narrow peaky band the effect can be substantial. I'm sure he is not talking about halving the size of his front sprocket, rather 1 or 2 teeth different front and back.
Better acceleration at the expense of having to change gear more often and a lower top speed is the end effect.
It is why racers use different gearing for different tracks otherwise they wouldnt be using top gear on some tracks at all. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 282 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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