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Hutchysrs50
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: The Youth Of The Nation... Reply with quote

a little story here...

a friend of mine had an old vespa scooter parked on the driveway... and from what i can only asume was chavs, stole the damn thing!
only to be found a few blocks away with the petrol switch on 'off' (oh yess there a bright bunch these chavs.. Neutral )

anyway!
iv always tryed to avoide leaving my bike parked where groups of people hang around, even places like Mcdonalds if i had to Rolling Eyes

any1 els try to avoide leaving there pride and joy for some scum to kick over and set fire to?
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have recently moved house and the garage isn't as good as my last one. Although i have only move 5 miles away from my last house I'm on pins all the time, Bike is locked, alarmed, twice immobilised, chained, ground anchored, under a cover in a locked garage at the end of a long driveway, but I'm still waiting for it to be nicked one day/night.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just use the stearing lock when im out and about, just gone to the shops or a friends house... Embarassed

any1 els get all there locks and alarms out for leaving it outside sainsburys for 15 minutes?
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually just leave it parked up with the steering lock on if it's in town or at the supermarket, unless its somewhere particuarly grotty looking. Usually try and park it somewhere well lit and visible too.

Also try and park it within sight of a more desirable bike, which generally isn't too difficult Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endless, Nameless wrote:

Also try and park it within sight of a more desirable bike, which generally isn't too difficult Laughing


aha Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep mine in the house, but when out and about I try to leave it where I can see it, or when at supermarket, leave it in sight of security guard, who happens to know me.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride old battered bikes, (which are well maintained)
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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any1 els get all there locks and alarms out for leaving it outside sainsburys for 15 minutes?


3 bike theifs in a van would take about 15 seconds to have your bike away?
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take the keys out the ignition when I go to Douglas. Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 05 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hutchysrs50 wrote:
any1 els get all there locks and alarms out for leaving it outside sainsburys for 15 minutes?


Disc lock is always with me. Don't have to 'get my alarm out', it stays on the bike Wink
I plan to install a force field around the bike at some point.
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always use the disc lock and stick it in gear, got a thing for forgetting to refill it so often have to leave it in random streets round my end with just a disc lock on till I can get it refilled, would never leave it more than 5-10 mins though.

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any1 els get all there locks and alarms out for leaving it outside sainsburys for 15 minutes?


3 bike theifs in a van would take about 15 seconds to have your bike away?
Think you'll find that's somewhat over-rated.

When I crashed mine, it took 5 fully grown blokes(not small guys either)to lift it out of the middle of't road and onto a flat bed to be ferried off to storage, unless they're taking a ped then it's not easy, a bigger bike is more work.
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PostPosted: 03:22 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:

When I crashed mine, it took 5 fully grown blokes(not small guys either)to lift it out of the middle of't road and onto a flat bed to be ferried off to storage, unless they're taking a ped then it's not easy, a bigger bike is more work.


Difference is they only need to lift the front of the bike. Basically lift the front wheel and wheel it anywhere. I have seen a few videos of 3 guys stealing big new bikes. 2 guys walking down a street, some sort of car/van pulls up one guy opens the door and then the 2 guys quickly move the bike into the van/car.

Quite easy to lift the front of a bike.

My helper, who is also the heavy gardener (big tonk guy) actually manhandled my Hornet into the van. And he had to lift it. The 6 guys who had trouble moving the bike on the ground had faces of shock, quite literally like Shocked & Surprised as he manhandled the thing. Laughing

As for? I pretty much always lock the NC when I work at next with a monster chain. At chicago's it's just in gear and steering lock. CCTV footage and a load of bouncers who know me Wink

Other places? Tend to just have it steering lock and in gear... Sometimes use disc lock but very rarely do.
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PostPosted: 04:44 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:

Difference is they only need to lift the front of the bike. Basically lift the front wheel and wheel it anywhere. I have seen a few videos of 3 guys stealing big new bikes. 2 guys walking down a street, some sort of car/van pulls up one guy opens the door and then the 2 guys quickly move the bike into the van/car.


Probably this one: https://bikerpunks.com/videos/thieves-quickly-steal-sportbike-.html

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PostPosted: 14:04 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:

When I crashed mine, it took 5 fully grown blokes(not small guys either)to lift it out of the middle of the road and onto a flat bed to be ferried off to storage, unless they're taking a ped then it's not easy, a bigger bike is more work.


Please don't tell me you're talking about the NSR, becuase I can lift that thing clear of the ground alone.
When the lockset needed replacing and the steering lock was engaged, it took only 3 of us to lift the bike, 1 to stabilise and manouver it 20m down my very narrow path to the street and into a van.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've put a SR125 into a van on my own without a ramp fine.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:

tutton wrote:
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any1 els get all there locks and alarms out for leaving it outside sainsburys for 15 minutes?


3 bike theifs in a van would take about 15 seconds to have your bike away?
Think you'll find that's somewhat over-rated.

When I crashed mine, it took 5 fully grown blokes(not small guys either)to lift it out of the middle of't road and onto a flat bed to be ferried off to storage, unless they're taking a ped then it's not easy, a bigger bike is more work.

It would seem those 5 people arnt as strong as they think,
ive heard of bikes round here being stolen.

Transit van,
2 Scaffold poles, though both wheels, 2 lift on front and 1 on rear into the van. Literally can be gone in around 15 seconds... my 50 only weighs about 100kg, but i can lift the front up, i had my weak mate and a girl both lift it up and move it down the street without trying with steering lock on Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

great, so im gona have to avoide vans aswell as McDonalds Laughing

and also chain it to a lampost or something similar!

so there is no way of stopping people nicking motorbikes then...?
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

manxscot wrote:
I take the keys out the ignition when I go to Douglas. Laughing


Clearly had your thinking helmet on that day! Idea
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isnt any way to stop someone stealing motorbikes, all you can do is do you best to slow them down, or make them go for the less secured bikes.

Like this thread it seems like it was a steal it because its there, aka opertunist theif, if a simple chain was on it they wouldnt have bothered, but if a professional theif wants your bike its only a matter of time, Hence why some people might sound like there over the top with chains, ground anchors, alarms, covers, disclocks, but the longer it takes the theif to try and have the bike away the more chance he will get caught or seen doing it and scarper.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the above, if someone wants to nick your bike badly enough they will eventually.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 blokes weren't 'weak', they average around 18/20 stone each and that isn't idle fat.

I'm not talking a ped, you can virtually pick up the motor/rear wheel with a hand from a ped, a 'bike' is a bit different, the engine on a 125 is roughly 2/3rds of the weight to start(more), not accounting for bigger frames and heavier parts generally. Anyone want to pot a vid or link one of 3 peps or less lifting a 125+ into a van? Or karting it off?

I've lifted my whole front off the deck by the forks on a BCF ride no probs, back end too but I would never try and lift it as one item.

All I'm sayin is a ped is one thing, a 600cc is another.

Also, you will never stop a bike being stolen, if they want it, it will vanish we can only slow them down and make it harder. Karma
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
5 blokes weren't 'weak', they average around 18/20 stone each and that isn't idle fat.

I'm not talking a ped, you can virtually pick up the motor/rear wheel with a hand from a ped, a 'bike' is a bit different, the engine on a 125 is roughly 2/3rds of the weight to start, not accounting for bigger frames and heavier parts generally. Anyone want to pot a vid or link one of 3 peps or less lifting a 125+ into a van? Or karting it off?

I've lifted my whole front off the deck by the forks on a BCF ride no probs, back end too but I would never try and lift it as one item.

All I'm sayin is a ped is one thing, a 600cc is another.

Also, you will never stop a bike being stolen, if they want it, it will vanish we can only slow them down and make it harder. Karma


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PostPosted: 20:58 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:

All I'm sayin is a ped is one thing, a 600cc is another.


Yes it is. But a 125cc is one thing, a 600cc is another also Wink

And I'll try and get a vid next time my bike breaks down and Richard manhandles it into his van Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

you will be surprised just flicking the engine stop switch, the roofer at work tryed to play a trick on me and got my keys and tryed to get it round the block but for the life of him could not start it.

but myt bike it locked with a dicklock and alarmed when out and about and then when at work and home its locked to something unmoveable like a post

but if they wanted it the can have it. ill get a new one from the insurance. and it will probally be in better condition than my one.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 06 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah molly, agreed.

chives, that old chestnut.. I never said it can't happen, but a group that have set out to do it (as in that vid) will be far more equipped in experience, skill and tools than an opportunist chav type thief. Wink
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