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adamcpi50sx08
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: consequences of a race exhaust on my cpi 50 sx Reply with quote

hi all, im new to these forums, i have been riding since i was 4 but i am new to the road as i have just recently got my first bike on the road (CPI SX 50), the bike is still restricted and im in the process of running it in etc, i know there a derestriction pack available for my bike from the dealer which doesnt effect the warranty which is: full derestriction from exhaust, bigger jets for carb and a front and rear sprocket kit to gear up for more speed, i have been lookin on utube at bikes like mine and came across a few with technigas enox exhausts, i emailed a guy on utube from manchester and asked him if he had ever been stopped for it and he says he has drove past many police cars and been in front/ behind them and never been pulled for it, what i want to know is how do the police tell that it is an illegal exhaust and what will happen if i am caught with an illegal exhaust on my bike, thanks alot, adam

P.S. bear in mind my bike is classed as a moped with it being restricted and i am only 16
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joop200789
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 08 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think the exhaust will be illegal,


but on your insurance it will be classed as a mod, which you will not have declared on your insurance so if you have an accident and they find out then your insurance will be void.

Also if it increases the bike performance enough to take you over 30mph,guessing your on L's then technically your not legal to drive the bike as you dont have the correct licence
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adamcpi50sx08
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

it must be illegal because the guy selling them on ebay has got in capitals FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY or race use only i cant remember and these exhausts have no catalylic converter (i dont know if thats the right spelling lol), do you think it will easy for cops to spot it or not
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tutton
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember putting a different exhaust to standard WILL invalidate your warrenty.

and i think its a 30 fine if they can prove its illegal,
so best way is to file and polish out the not for road use bit.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

joop200789 wrote:
but on your insurance it will be classed as a mod, which you will not have declared on your insurance so if you have an accident and they find out then your insurance will be void.



Or they simply won't pay for a replacement exhaust and put a std one on.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

The exhaust itself isn't illegal as long as it isn't de-restricted, however a new exhaust which is still restricted will make absolutely no difference to your performance, it will just look and sound a little different.

Bear in mind:
Arrow You are more likely to get pulled over with an after market exhaust (whether restricted or not) as it attracts attention, and this could get you in the shit for other things they wouldn't have otherwise noticed.

Arrow If you de restrict the exhaust the moped is now classed as a motorcycle and as such you do not have the correct license to ride it, your insurance will also be invalidated.

Arrow As already said it will be counted as a modifiction from factory condition whether restricted or not and you will not have declared this on your insurance which will also void it.

Basically it's perfectly legal to have an after market exhaust on your bike as long as it's still restricted, and have declared it on insurance (not sure if you'll still get insured though!)
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the times i have been stoped they have never bothered about the exahust system on my dt and sx50. Just dont be flying past them on a dual carridge way at 50 coz they will know somthings up. My mate has had some traffic cops pull him up but he said the usual "yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir" and got away with it. Realisticaly i think they know that most scooters got one, i belive it is stupid not to. i had a vivacity that could make it to 32mph downhill with the wind behind me and that was unsafe as evry car was doing me on the outside and if anythin did happen i would not have enough vrummm to get me out the way.

derestrict it.
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adamcpi50sx08
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 09 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have been told that it doenst have anything else written on it except from technigas enox, theres no "NOT FOR ROAD USE" or "FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY" stamped on the exhaust so they couldnt really prove it could they, the bike is gettin derestricted anyway whether i get the technigas or not because like many others say it is more dangerous going at restricted speeds on most roads, so would you guys say it is okay as long as i dont go to quick near cops
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Rowey
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcpi50sx08 wrote:
theres no "NOT FOR ROAD USE" or "FOR OFFROAD USE ONLY" stamped on the exhaust so they couldnt really prove it could they?


All exhausts must be stamped with a BSA or E mark to say they are meant for road use. If it doesn't have either of them, it will not pass an MOT. And any bike cop will know what to look for.
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adamcpi50sx08
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay i think i will problys get it after the new year unless i bottle it lol i will let you guys know how it goes
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
joop200789 wrote:
but on your insurance it will be classed as a mod, which you will not have declared on your insurance so if you have an accident and they find out then your insurance will be void.



Or they simply won't pay for a replacement exhaust and put a std one on.


They will do that with mods that you HAVE declared...
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adamcpi50sx08
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

no this would void my insurance anyway because obviously a aftermarket race exhaust isnt gonna have a restriction or a cat so i wouldnt have the licence for it remember im only 16 lol
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It would make it more obvious that you are riding illegally. Whether the police choose to take any notice of this is another question.

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:10 - 10 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

adamcpi50sx08 wrote:
no this would void my insurance anyway because obviously a aftermarket race exhaust isnt gonna have a restriction or a cat so i wouldnt have the licence for it remember im only 16 lol


That depends, you can get aftermarket exhausts which are for road use, but they tend to be alot easier to de-restrict than standard ones because the manufacturers know that's what people want.

You can obviously buy some exhausts which are already made for offroad use!
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 14 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was my E-NOX on my CPI. Never had a chance to get stopped buy the police as the bike was off the road broken down so much!!. It was the worst bike ever!!!!!. Twisted Evil https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNq-hqGlq8&feature=channel_page
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