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PostPosted: 16:28 - 21 Dec 2008    Post subject: Chain and sprockets Reply with quote

I recently bought a zxr750 from pyroforlife (pleasure doing business sir).

The bike needs a little work, most importantly a new chain and sprockets.

Having never bought these before can anyone recommend a good quality set, including whatever tool I need to attach the chain.

I want to stick with the standard gearing of the bike.

Thanks
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 21 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

B&C Express, Tsubaki X-ring gold chain, renthal steel sprockets, around £100 for the kit.

https://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/cgi-bin/bc_page.pl?cat=KITS-ROAD&nav=Kawasaki
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 21 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Any cheaper options?

https://motorcycleproducts.co.uk/catalogue/drive-chain-kawasaki-zxr750-zx750-j12-199193-p-55226.html

Is it recomended to always buy a chain and sprocket kit? or can you buy the chain and sprockets separately to mix and match?
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PostPosted: 06:23 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay is cheap, can sometimes find some quality stuff on there, like DID chains for £20 because someone brought the wrong pitch.

Bear in mind P+P will hurt
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Thanks. Any cheaper options?


You might find a local bearing factor supply chains and sprockets at a much cheaper price.
You will need to know the full details of the chain such as the No of links etc.
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need one by Christmas eve as after that I really can't travel to work on the current one, the rear sprocket has a number of half broken teeth.


The sprockets are 16T 45T and the chain is 530 110.

I guess I can only buy sprockets made for my model since the mounting holes etc.. will have to match up?

Also how do I join the chain? I've looked at riveters and they seem danm expensive.
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PostPosted: 09:37 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will be better off just taking the bike to a workshop to be done. I would charge an hours labour for chain and sprockets. You are looking at around £40 for that I would imagine. The chain tool is £55 upwards and you would know that the kit is being fitted by someone who has done it many times. Smile

You could use JT sprockets if you want; they are quite cheap. Not sure of prices at the mo though.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
I need one by Christmas eve as after that I really can't travel to work on the current one, the rear sprocket has a number of half broken teeth.


The sprockets are 16T 45T and the chain is 530 110.

I guess I can only buy sprockets made for my model since the mounting holes etc.. will have to match up?

Also how do I join the chain? I've looked at riveters and they seem danm expensive.


take the swingarm off and buy an endless chain instead, needs a castle nut which you can cut yourself probably if I can manage it so can you.

a scrap socket and angle grinder work wonders....
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think I will order the chain and sprockets. fit the sprockets then take it to a workshop and plead and beg for them to rivet the chain for a small fee.

that or i might call my breakdown service, will the AA rivet my chain if i tell them the old one broke?
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably not, when my split-link shot off last year the recovery guy just sucked wind in through his teeth and loaded it on the back of the van.

"Not insured mate, if I fit another split-link and that pops off, and spits the chain out the back I'm liable"

Didn't have a soft link and riveter on him, I think they should change their service to "recovery" it's all they do these days.

Back to the OP, I'm in a similar situation at the moment, the C&S are getting towards the end of their life at 14,000 miles, the previous set did 19,000 miles.

Last time it cost £119 inc (525x112 links + sprockets 17T, 42T + fitting + VAT), I've been looking at kits on-line and they're not far off that, then there's P&P, then there's a "decent" splitter/riveter.

I think it's going to the dealer's this time for an OEM set that might give me an extra 5,000 miles.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 22 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

problem solved almost. My local bike store said they have a DID kit to fit my bike for £87 and can lend me a riveter. They will rivet it for me if push the bike there.

Only problem is they are not open Christmas eve. I finish work at 5pm tomorrow and they close at 17:30, i'm 40min out of town. Will most likely ride like hell and come off attempting to make it.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 23 Dec 2008    Post subject: How to rivet Reply with quote

Just got a DID chain and sprokets from Tinklers in Norwich. They also lent me one of these (with a £100 deposit)

https://www.powersportsuperstore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/TR12-1292-2.jpg

How do I use it correctly?
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 23 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've copied a page from the Hein Gericke catalogue: here it might help. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 23 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should you attach your new chain to the old one, why not just put it on the new sprockets by hand?

That flat plate shown in the picture of my riveter, is that to push the link on before riveting the chain?

Also how far should you tighten the screw when riveting and should it be done by hand or with a spanner?
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 23 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Why should you attach your new chain to the old one, why not just put it on the new sprockets by hand?


Makes it easy to pull the new chain through. Saves faffing round with your fingers behind the frame and chain guard trying to pull it through.

All the best

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PostPosted: 09:54 - 24 Dec 2008    Post subject: How much torque to rivet the chain? Reply with quote

As i'm using new sprockets obviously i can't attach my new chain to the old.

The most important question though is how much torque do i need for:

a) Pressing the link?
b) Riveting the D.I.D ZJ rivet?
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 24 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I tend not to notice the torque (will vary massively with the type of rivit link), but tend to use a measuring caliper to check the head as mushroomed an amount that I am happy with.

All the best

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PostPosted: 19:34 - 24 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after 8 hours and a few complications i've done it. Lost two hours on the front sprocket bolt, had to push the bike to a garage to get it undone.

I riveted the link by basically using a wrench on the tool and kept turning until i felt a good resistance, then did an extra bit for luck.

The link looks maybe a fraction mushroomed, i'm sure. Going to be worrying about it now for ages.

The bike feels a 100 times better, so it was worth the effort provided it doesn't brake.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 26 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the riveted link moves freely, it should be within tolerance.
Just check it before each trip for a month or so.
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