My long term project

[DevilsTower]

Hello lads and lasses.

I've had what was supposed to be a low-cost project in my garage for half a year now. No, it's not a car - only a 50cc moped actually. You noticed that I wrote that it was supposed to be a low cost project, well, it kind of escalated after I photoshopped a picture of the original bike to what it would be nice to have it look like. Until this date I've spent about £3500 on it so far, and it's supposed to be up for sale and finished sometime in January.

Well, anyways, here's the photoshop. Google Derbi Senda R 2000 to see the original bike.
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The project is sponsored by:
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And here's the shopping list and specs for it:

Engine:
Airsal 75cc cylinder
Dell'Orto 21mm carb.
Hebo Titan performance exhaust
MVT Millenium ignition (Coil, CDI etc)
MVT Millenium lightened flywheel
NGK B9RS spark plug
NGK ignition cord
21mm inlet
Metrakit SP performance clutch

Frame/other:
New SM tires dim. 110/70/17 (front) 140/70/17 (rear)
New anodized rims front/rear
Black frame
Metrakit Wave brake discs front/rear
New brake pads front/rear
13t sprocket front dim 428
48t sprocket rear dim 428
Iris GSX 428 chain
Painted calipers

Styling/other:
KTM headlight
KTM SM front fender
White coat plastic
Better throttle handle
JAX Metal grips
New, shorter side indicators
Renthal enduro/FMX handlebars
Polisport fork guards
Derbi DRD mirror left side, remove right side mirror
Clean up in the wiring
New fuel- and oil lines
TNT rear light and plate holder
Red engine cover
Red clutcharm
New oil pump cover
Graphics
Vapor speedometer

That's about it I believe.

Then some pics and text:

This is what it looked like when I got it:
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https://i16.tinypic.com/67rdp3s.jpg
https://img214.imageshack.us/img214/7500/dsc0072ai4.jpg
Nice to have a "big" garage.

Then work started:
New handles and the new "old" exhaust was mounted, Metrakit Thrower MK2
https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3163/1sept1rw9.jpg

A few spare parts
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The plug and ignition-cord
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Me working with the throttle wire
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This is what it COULD look like:
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Throttle-handle and brake handle:
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Performance flywheel, ignition and 14t sprocket mounted. You can also spot the 21mm inlet and carb.
https://i11.tinypic.com/4opw66e.jpg

Coil and ignition cord:
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Parts I bought and later sold:
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New 110/70/17 tire and Metrakit Wave disc
https://i8.tinypic.com/4uczwhs.jpg

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FOX helmet with Spy goggles bought
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Handguards (sold now) and Renthal bars mounted:
https://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1470/img8420hk3.jpg

Now sold
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21mm Dell'Orto carb and 21mm inlet:
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Wiring crap that I didn't understand much of
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A mate of mine sits on it when we tried starting it up the street. Didn't work. And yes, crisps is a vital part of starting up a bike for the first time.
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Then I chuncked it together to try to start it:
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It ran for 3-4 days when I first figured out the problem, but then it stopped working, which made me pissed which again led me to do this:
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Hebo exhaust:
https://i3.tinypic.com/7w7lf6u.jpg

Sanding the plastics
https://i3.tinypic.com/7x2d3bo.jpg

Renthal bars:
https://i17.tinypic.com/81z7c5v.jpg

Parts:
https://i9.tinypic.com/8f15e6r.jpg

Tires and dampers
https://i2.tinypic.com/81g4gsx.jpg

Engine:
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MOAAAR:
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Wiring:
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Even MOAAAAAAAAR:
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Then, while I waited for the lamp and fender I did some more disassembly:
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Fuel tank wings sanded
https://i11.tinypic.com/6uoq1d3.jpg

Then I sanded the rear fender and fibreglassed it:
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F*ckloads of sanding paper needed:
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And then the lamp and the fender finally arrived!!
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Together with a rear wheel mount nut and braking pads:
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Then I painted some plastics:
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Grips and fork guards arrived!
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And then the project had to be postponed for a month cause of this (Op to the wrist, removed a tumor-thing which made my hand live a life of it's own):
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Then I ordered this:

Rims:
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118253028B_hi.jpg

https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118253028N_hi.jpg

Engine cover:
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118376000B_hi.jpg

Fuel cap, bling bling!!
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118422501A_hi.jpg

Road legal plate holder and rear light:
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0129462565_hi.jpg

Clutch arm:
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118090591A_hi.jpg

Indicators:
https://www.easyparts.nl/partpics/0118206146_hi.jpg

Had to assemble the lamp and fender to see what it'll look like:
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My opinion:
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Parts for media blasting:
https://i32.tinypic.com/30jgsw4.jpg

New vs. old - again:
https://i25.tinypic.com/wallc2.jpg

I have to weld this hole, crap:
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And then some for the ones of you who are interested in cars:

Missing the good ol' times, when these two were sitting in the garage:
https://photos-503.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v74/175/5/826560503/n826560503_244486_8900.jpg

The Silvia was wrecked and the 200sx was recently sold. It was replaced by this one though, so ain't that bad after all:

https://www.jdmgarage.no/jdm/garage/DSC09893.jpg

https://www.jdmgarage.no/jdm/garage/DSC09919.jpg

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New leather jacket
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https://i26.tinypic.com/15h21c9.jpg

Front shocks, half sanded
https://i27.tinypic.com/2z83r7c.jpg

Engine and some new plastic
https://i31.tinypic.com/16bzq0o.jpg


And then my new helmet:
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Got my new speedo:
https://i29.tinypic.com/mlsgue.jpg

Gave the grey and tired radiator a touch of paint:
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Assembly has begun!

Everything is just test-mounted in the first pics.

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Nice and clean, thats how we like it!
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Need to make some kind of mounting bracket for the rear light.
https://i32.tinypic.com/15r09q9.jpg

Given things some paint!
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Started the day with a photoshoot outside:
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Need to find somewhere to place the Vapor speedo since the barclamps don't fit! Need to move the ignition too since the KTM headlight sits so close to the handlebars that it wont fit there, so I thought I could place it at that position.
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Laid the last coat of paint on the rim and mounted it and test mounted some other parts.
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Yummeeyum!!
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Thanks guys! More pics

A mate of mines to the left, same bike as me with some mods, mine to the right. He's got big plans for it too!
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Dampers painted, I liked the touch of white at the bottom!
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The Hebo exhaust tip mounted, colour matched!
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Finally got my arse over to the store and bought a bucket of motivation, they were on sale so I thought I could do it now, and got the right hand side rear panel sanded down after a big phail last time I painted it.
https://i32.tinypic.com/2ewzgg1.jpg

The kick painted, the top of it will be in it's original colour since I'll wear off the paint on it in five minutes anyway.
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I mounted one of the dampers last night, but forgot to take pics of it. It's actually impossible to mount them without scratching the paint, I even clashed grease all over the damper and spaced out the damper mount, but I still scratched it! DAMN!

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Finally fixed the god damn seat cover! Stitched it up last night and stretched it I'm quite satisfied as it's completely home made! Alcantara with white and red seaming.

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Front fender is not mounted right yet, hence it hanging to the left.
https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v338/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009912_7077.jpg

When I come to think about it, nothing is really mounted right yet, including the vapor...
https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v338/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009913_7441.jpg

...the rear wheel is actually put on the wrong way and the rear light is not sitting right either
https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v338/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009910_6426.jpg

https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-sf2p/v338/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009909_6063.jpg

And then some hardcore mothereffing shiat
https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v351/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009921_8134.jpg

https://photos.l3.facebook.com/photos-l3-snc1/v351/64/117/682753366/n682753366_1009922_8480.jpg

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Well, that's it for now, probably the last pics of it in the year of 2008. I've had it since August 2007, so it's time to sell it soon to finance my drivers license! Any comments and feedback would be greatly appreciated even though it's only a 75cc bike.

[mattsprattuk]

sorry to say it
well, actually im not.

£3500 for that is a complete waste of money and i personally think it looks shit.

bye
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[DevilsTower]

Well, thank you very much for such constructive criticism...

[Fnatic]

I mean if it was my project, in my position, I would wake up and think that could be an insured R6 sitting there with my licence.

However, considering it hasn't affected you that much it's a brilliant project. In my opinion it looks great for a 50 and you've tuned it up nicely. You've obviously put a lot of time, effort and money into it and clearly you are happy with it.

I'd love to do something like this if I had £3500 that I wouldn't have stuff more important and necessary to buy. Keep it up and keep us updated. Get some decals on there and paint the front light white.

Nice but remember it's only a 50.

(You're crazy)

[Joeb46]

get a doppler race crank.
the standard ones might as well be made of jelly.
https://www.adrenalin-pedstop.co.uk/p/MOPED-TUNING---DERBI-SENDA-GPR-1504.aspx

wish i could have done something like that with mine. im inpressed well done matey
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Kawasaki er-5 race bike# 106

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[daz_d_biker]

Projects always work out like this. It will never be worth it in anybodys eyes apart from your own, but still a nice looking bike You do know its only worth like half of what it cost you, right? It's a shame you didn't wait another year and do it to a 125 Would appeal to so many more people, but as it stands only a 16 year old would want it...

Daz.
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[TUG]

[CHR15]

wow, i wish i could make seat covers as good as that!

are those brake discs anodized or painted? does the red wear off?
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Ste: I'm not entirely sure how you'd go about verbally abusing someone with a potato but I'm sure it's possible.

[NiteMare]

personally i can't see 3.5grands worth of bike or work there but if you're happy with it, congratulations ...


p.s.
i'd sooner have saved that money and got a full size bike/engine, my most expensive bike ever was my old 76 Bonnie at exactly 2k
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it ain't broke...

i ain't fixed it enough

[ms51ves3]

Would love to do something like that, but I'm too cautious with my money

Are you going to throw it on a dyno? Would be interesting to see what it puts out.

[hmmmnz]

wicked stuff, i like it,
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I kick arse for the lord
Wiring Diagrams BIDNIP it bitches

[MugenSeiki]

Looks sweet


Wouldn't mind those rims myself

[DevilsTower]

Thanks for the comments everyone! I'll try to explain why I did it to a 50cc rather than something with more cubics.

I'm living in Norway, bought the bike when I was 16. I pay for everything myself, don't get any financial support from my parents, so I had to finance my 50cc license which set me back £500. The 125cc license would've cost me £1500 which I at the time couldn't afford, esp. not buying a bike after that since the 125's cost £3000-£10000 here, and then comes the insurance on top of that. Norway is an expensive country, everything costs sh*tloads, which you've probably noticed if you've been here.

On the other side, I really wanted to do something with this to learn the basics of a two stroke engine, and to accomplish to break the personal barrier of having taken a motorized vehicle to fragments and then put it back together. I really don't care about the money I've put in the project as I look upon it as an investment, at least I get back about £2k of them. And it's a lot better than having used them on burgers, candy and food at school, which I hadn't had any of them back.

A lot of people can't believe why I didn't do it to a car instead, as I would have use of a car when I'm now turning 18 in March. But since I've got a Skyline along with my brother, I can work on the R32 alongside of the Derbi.

To some other questions about the bike:

The brake discs are sadly painted, so the red will wear off in the braking areas

I won't dyno it as it would require me to go a long way just to do it, and it costs a lot, and I really need to save money for my drivers license now But it's got an estimated speed of 75mph tops with this setup fine tuned.

And last but not least I'm repeating that I know I'm going to lose a lot of money when I sell it, but I look upon it as an investment and a great learning experience, so it's definately worth it for me

[binge]

The idea is there. But why did you cut so many corners.

I mean, you were competent to fit a big bore kit. Yet you took the easy way out when it came to doing your forks? Why didnt you just take the feet off (The white bits), they are held on by 1 bolt.

And you could of easily pulled the stantions out of the fork legs without too much greif. Then you could of got them powder coated or similar.


Same with the plastics, If you were willing to go to £3500 on mods, Surely you could of picked up some after market, White plastics? That white paint will flake off in not time.


And lastly, £3500. And you fitted an Airsal Cylinder kit?


Thats like buying a Lamborghini and fitting Budget tyres!



If your happy with it, that's all that matters. It does look cool.

[davthegreat]

i saw your project when i was searching derbi senda's on google found your project on a forum swedish,norway or something like that

i love it i think the colours are well good dunno about the overall look but i think you really show other people how its done and ive stole a lot of your ideas,thanks

£3500 so what your money and what you wanted to do

hope you have more updates if you continue to improve it

[davthegreat]

also some questions

1.where can i buy the same helmet as yours the white one cos ive looked everywhere for it and cant find it anywhere

2.what rear tyre are you running on it cos its fat as and looks mint do you know where ic an buy the same tyre

3.how did you paint your radiator like that cos ive tryed with different colours and it just flakes off with heat, obv i need heat paint but where can you get that colour and also it being heat paint, all i can find is like black,white and basic colours that are in heat paint.

thanks for any help

[davthegreat]

double post

[tutton]

I personally think you have good taste in colours and that, and you look to be a good painter.
nice one
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Hutchysrs50]

does the engine only have 2 mounting points?

as i have an aprilia rx 50, and i was planning on putting it in a senda but the rs 50, rx 50 tzr 50 ect.. ect.. all have 3 mounting points to the frame

but it doesnt look like it will fit in, any1 let me know?
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[torpedo]

[stevo as b4]

Personally id have thrown the 3.5K into a car every time! That 200SX could have been one mean mofo with that much cash put into it! Shame you sold it, but the R32 isn't bad i suppose, slightly challenged in the looks department, but then you get the smooth sound of a straight 6 with a sprinkling of HKS dump valve squeal thrown in!

The Bike looks good and i hope your happy with it too! Understand that you are limited costs wise into a small capacity bike, but i do think you could have got the look you have acheived with your bike for alot less than 3.5k too. If it were mine then after all that work, i wouldn't sell it as you will have waved goodbye to at least 2.5k. The sensible thing to do now would be to get yourself an nice 125-200cc liquid cooled lump and swap in a bigger motor, so that it keeps you happy. A DTR, KMX, MTX, CRM lump etc would probably do the trick, and that trick chassis is easily up for 25-30bhp!

I wish i had a big garage and 3.5K right now myself, as i have just seen a cheap but original Rover 220Gti that i want to play with!

[DevilsTower]

[Razz (Derbi Senda 50)]

hi
i was wondering if anyone could tell me were that pipe behind the kickstart go's to ?
thanx mark

[stevo as b4]

Don't be too hard on the guy for spending £3.5K on the bike, as i have just seen bike tonight that cost £28k to build. The clue to what it is and what is based on is the 93 GP500 champ's signature on the tank.