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Catalyst
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

Bit of an essay but i really need help on this one, im stumped.

Right well i've been learning to drive the past few months and i'm now ready for my test. My dad has said i can have his 04 1.2 clio sport for free! Shocked . The only problem is the cheapest i can find insurance is about £1300 TPFT with both him and my mum on the policy (mum as main driver).

Now, my bike insurance runs out in June and will probably go up as i had a crash which was my fault this year. I can't afford to insure both as im at college with only a part time job, but i have my premium bonds from my nan which could pay for my car insurance which in turn means i can insure the bike for another year. Is it worth spending money my nan has put away on insurance?

Might just insure the bike for 6 months from june which will take me through to winter, i don't need a car as i don't mind riding in all weather but it would be more practical atm. What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: 04:09 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the car man,

Ring around on the insurance and play people off of one another.

"Oh I got a quote for £900 off of so and so can you match it or better it"
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the car! And remember fronting is illegal if you turn out to be the main driver!
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can smoke weed and shag in the back of a Clio Thumbs Up

I'd say most people on here would go for a car 'full-time' if it came down to it.

Sell the bike and use the money for your car insurance, bikes will still be around in the next couple of years.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

I presume the car's worth a bit and the 'sport' will seriously bump up the insurance for a young'un. Could probably get an older cheaper car and insurance for less than the price of just insurance for that I reckon.
So depends how much the prestige of having an 04 'sport' is worth to you Smile.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the car. Sell it. Get a punto or some low insurance thingy. Best of both.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going against the grain a bit - You're at college and working a few hours a week, so having both isn't worth it.

If you insure the car now, then in a year you'll have insurance that just expired and no savings to pay for next year's.

I would ride/drive whichever I could afford to use.

Car insurance will be cheaper next year. Run a quote through swiftcover to check though.

One final thing - if you stop riding will you fuck off?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys, i think deep down i know i would want a car for practicality. I finish college in June and will be working full time from the September anyway so i should be able to afford the insurance for next year.

I'm going on a bike tour in August next year as well so i want to keep my bike for at least 1 more summer. Surely you can't get done for fronting as they wouldn't know who has driven X amount of miles?

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PostPosted: 13:34 - 29 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:13 - 30 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely if you get too carried away with the smokey pokey in the rialto, it'll topple over?

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PostPosted: 00:48 - 30 Dec 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont fart arse about with named driver, clearly the insurance companies have caught on to this, hence your price.

Shop around, try Quinn Direct I've known them to be cheap before, also try Footman James, they kick utter anus for insuring strange vehicles and seem to treat you as an individual rather than a boyracing little cnut.

I would suggest selling the clio, and seizing a mk3 astra 1.4-6 or something similar, you will soon grow sick of the gearing on the clio, beleive me.

The amount of money to drive a bigger engined car ain't as much as you'd think, and that quote you had will nearly halve after year 1.
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

G wrote:
I presume the car's worth a bit and the 'sport' will seriously bump up the insurance for a young'un. Could probably get an older cheaper car and insurance for less than the price of just insurance for that I reckon.
So depends how much the prestige of having an 04 'sport' is worth to you Smile.


TBF, at his age (17) insurance isn't going to get much cheaper.

I've looked at crappy 1.0 Corsas and that's around 1000 for me and I'm 20 with a years driving licence!

I had been thinking of getting a cheap shit car just as a runabout but insurance is far too extortionate.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only about 500 quid for me to get insured on my mums 1.4 corsa, and im not the main driver.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:

I've looked at crappy 1.0 Corsas and that's around 1000 for me and I'm 20 with a years driving licence!

Was that with you as the main driver, though?

Shop around a bit and go for an older car and reckon you could get it down a decent amount.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig- wrote:
Have the car! And remember fronting is illegal if you turn out to be the main driver!


Illegal maybe, but nigh on impossible to prove as long as you don't confess.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would sell the clio and buy an older car, but i feel it's a waste really? Not many people can afford a good condition 04 car and also an older car will cost more to keep running in terms of fixing it and the like.

In the long run an older car will cost the same anyway, might just wait till next winter to insure the car. That way i can save for insurance and keep the premium bond money i have, as well as keeping the bike.

Sure i can get the insurance down to £1000 if i call around.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hurricanehollis wrote:
Not many people can afford a good condition 04 car and also an older car will cost more to keep running in terms of fixing it and the like.

In the long run an older car will cost the same anyway,

Sorry, but an 04 reg small hactchback is hardly that exclusive; don't cost that much to buy for one with highish miles.

Bendy's old Micra cost £150 and hardly needed any work for a year's worth of use. Sure it might not be as fashionable, but it will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
If anything does go wrong, it's not a big problem to get another; probably costs less than just a service does on a newer car.

Oh and I believe I've had the argument before about the fact that everyone does 'illegal' stuff, so it's not a great argument just stating that something is bad because it's illegal Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 01 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

G wrote:

Was that with you as the main driver, though?

Shop around a bit and go for an older car and reckon you could get it down a decent amount.


It was yes. My dad's in Miami (and don't speak to him) and my mum is in a wheelchair so I can't put anyone else as the main driver. I've tried a couple of family friends (like my mum's carer) and it makes the price higher Confused

I'm not going to bother shopping around. I know I could get it cheaper, etc. But I don't fancy spending more than 500-600 quid and I'm not going to get it that low unless I buy some really really crappy shit car. Like mattspratt's reliatn. Or whatever.

Funnily enough if/when my mum gets a family car through Motability I could drive a 1.6 BMW 1 series... and not pay insurance apart from the £40 a week, which will be payed by me, mum and my sister... But that also includes service, and running costs (apart from petrol, tyres are included).

Only thing is I have an excess of 500 quid. Which I'm not fussed about Laughing So I guess I could jsut wait for that Razz
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

Named driver should make a decent difference. An older car does everything a newer car will do from a utilitarian sense. Generally the lower model newer hatchbacks aren't really that 'luxurious'.
If you're happy to forgo the convenience for the sake of being seen in a newer vehicle, <shrugs>, 'sup to you Razz.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hurricanehollis wrote:
In the long run an older car will cost the same anyway, might just wait till next winter to insure the car.


Not by a long stretch. Depreciation is a hell of a lot of money, and add to that servicing, etc. Buy an old car, do the work yourself or find a cheap mechanic and it will cost peanuts to run.

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PostPosted: 13:00 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also rag the shit out of older cars and not feel bad. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

G wrote:
Named driver should make a decent difference. An older car does everything a newer car will do from a utilitarian sense. Generally the lower model newer hatchbacks aren't really that 'luxurious'.
If you're happy to forgo the convenience for the sake of being seen in a newer vehicle, <shrugs>, 'sup to you Razz.


I think named driver only works with family...

And yes I know that.

I think you're replying to me... although you should be replying to hollis as it's his car,etc.

I just decided not to bother as I don't wanna pay more than 500 quid in insurance Razz

I don't care what the car would look like either Razz

Would love an old Triumph or Mini, put it that way Razz
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

m0l0t0v wrote:


Would love an old Triumph or Mini, put it that way Razz


Awesome cars, or a mk I Escort. Cool
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

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Awesome cars, or a mk I Escort. Cool


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PostPosted: 19:27 - 02 Jan 2009    Post subject: Re: To spend or not to spend Reply with quote

Named drivers work with others as well (I have several people named on my van insurance, for instance). In some cases adding an extra driver onto your insurance may bring it down too... and of course is entirely legal as this is just giving them the option to drive it. I've done this in the past; adding bendy onto my insurance soon after I passed my test knocked £200 off it!

Insurance on old mini's isn't that great if I remember. Try an eighties Fiat Panda, Nissan Micra or similar; obviously all with the smallest engine they offered, etc.
Not sure if I'd want to be seen in a bottom-of-the-range 1 series Razz, but that does sound like a nice option.
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