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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Smallest? Reply with quote

Interesting header...! Anyway... what is the physically smallest 600cc bike? Is it the hornet?
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

We talking seat height or weight or what?
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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

the whole package, length, height and width
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea. I guess a naked one will be a bit smaller in width and maybe height but they're all pretty much the same really as far as I've ever noticed.

You trying to fit one in a very small garage or something? Very Happy
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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

no just having a debate at work, i think its a hornet, he thinks its a buell or some such similar bike
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buels are absolutely diddy, but they aint a 600!?

The R6 is pretty small for a 600. It's smaller physically than the ZX6R etc, but about the same as a CBR600RR I "think"

But the R6 still the fastest Razz
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he's on about the Buell Firebolt then it is really small has a 52" wheelbase which is the smallest on the market as far as I am aware. This is not a 600 though, its a 984cc so your friend would be wrong.

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PostPosted: 12:22 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought that the Honda Bros looked quite dimensionally small, and that's a 650 (I think).
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are talking sportsbikes, then it's got to be the 2003 R6, that is the only 600 I can physically reach the floor from.

I really don't know about the technicalities though, so it could statisically be something else. Overall though, it seems not only the lowest seat height, but the narrowest and feels the lightest (to me).
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a bit of a difficult one really. Generally sports bikes are lighter and have a shorter wheelbase for manoeuvrability. They tend to use more expensive components too, that save weight but tend to have highish seat hights. Where as Traditional bikes like the Hornet, CBF600, etc, use cheaper components that weigh more but have lower seats.

It's all a bit of a mixed bag really and usually depends on the use the bike was designed for.

The Hornet is quite a good mix of the two though, 790mm seat hight, 178kg weight and 1420mm wheel base.

Compare that to my 954 Blade, 815mm seat hight, 168kg and a 1395 wheelbase.

So I suppose the moral of the story is buy a 954 Blade! Wink
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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

we didnt say the bike had to be of a particualr 'type', i.e. sports bike or naked etc, but i can seem to find anything else bar the hornet so far
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of overall mass, I'm sure it would be some traillie/crosser type thing. They're tall, but they're skinny and light.

Mash G's DR600 up into a cube and it would be very small indeed.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikec106 wrote:
we didnt say the bike had to be of a particualr 'type', i.e. sports bike or naked etc, but i can seem to find anything else bar the hornet so far


That's why I gave an example of a Traditional and sports bike.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:

Mash G's DR600 up into a cube and it would be very small indeed.


You mean he's not done that yet? Go G Wink
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PostPosted: 16:55 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

The honda CBF600 is lower and shorter than the hornet, but it weighs more.
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
As far as I know the new zx6rr is the smallest i think. The R6 inst that high but its got a wide seat so a pain for peeps with short legs. The CBR600F is pretty small I think.

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PostPosted: 18:39 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Re: Smallest? Reply with quote

My friends ducati dark monster looked fairly light and insubstantial - or perhaps that was jus the build quality ?

mikec106 wrote:
Interesting header...! Anyway... what is the physically smallest 600cc bike? Is it the hornet?

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PostPosted: 19:13 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was at clay cross powersports the other week and saw a 600cc single race ish looking bike, i cant remember what it was or who it was made by (one of the 4 jap makers) but it was TINY i couldn't believe it, really small it was, but don't mind me i will go sit back in my corner... ramble ramble, hamsters? get them out of my toast factory dammit!.... grumble...
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a Yam SZR660. Thats pretty small AFAIK. Very cramped looking riding position.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 05 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Think the SZR660 uses the frame from the TZR125RR.

All the best

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MikeyC
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PostPosted: 10:46 - 06 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

think the smallest physical bike would necessarily mean it's the lightest?
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 06 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a ZZR 600 seat hight 780mm wheel base 1430 weight 195 and the seat is quite narrow, it`s about the only bike i can get my short ass on Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 06 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a clue if its a new bike you're after - but the (multi rather than single pot) crown would have to go to the FZ600 - yamaha's air cooled 600cc motor shoehorned into their jap 400 chassis of the time (mid eighties) - next up could go to the GPz600R - again, a 600 motor in the jap home market's 400cc chassis
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