Illegal tail light?

[binge]

Okay, I know the plate is highly illegal anyway. But is the Tail light taking the Piss?
Or is it legal?


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Basically, There used to be a subframe running under that tail plastic. But when I used to stunt it, I had a 12 bar bolted to that subframe. With it bending up and down constantly. It eventually weakened. And the other day, Even though I took the 12 bar off long ago. It snapped.

The Off-Road bikes dont have this part of the subframe anyway, Only the road going ones. its put there to hold the Reg plate and light/indicators.

But as its gone now, Is my tail light okay mounted where it is?




Ben

[virus]

If its mounted securely, Has a reflector, numberplate illumination, and only shows red light to the rear then its legal.

Cheers
John
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stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Could probably do you for having an LED (non filament bulb) light if they were really picky.

Most of the regulations are here:-

https://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_15.htm#nsch10

They could probably get you on the basis that it isn't really "near" the rear of the bike.

Could possibly also get you on the angles it is visable from (15 degrees about and below, the above bit might be an issue).

All th best

Keith
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[TAX MY BRAIN]

Id say thats a " please pull me over plod "

but hey put a false plate on should be a sure thing for some plod baiting
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[Pernig]

Looks alright to me, it seems to drown out the number plate though. Does your number plate have a light illuminating it?
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[NiteMare]

that "looks" to be larger than the one i have on my slabby, i've been followed by plod a couple of times with no pull, i've also been pulled over the once on the M6 by plod but there was no mention of the tail light ....

he was under the impression that my bike might be dangerous as it has no rear bodywork/seat/mudguard....

mine is also an led tail/brake light and is the smallest i've seen, 8 or 10 leds
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[Villers]

What does it look like if you were stood up behind the bike instead of crouched?? Just curious if something large, say a truck for example, was behind you would they be able to see the light and more importantly would they be able to see a brake light coming on. That would worry me more than an MOT or it being legal - people behind me not being albel to see me or see me braking!
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[binge]

The rear fender does sweep upwards, So you can still see it from standing up behind the bike.
And a Truck shouldn't be so far up my arse that it cant see my tail light really.

The angle is adjustable, Its on a couple of L shaped bracket I made up, Which are bolted to the frame. So the nuts can be cracked off, Angle moved, and nip the nuts back up.

Reg plate is not illuminate no. It was, But I broke one of the tiny wires for the LED reg plate light, and havnt bothered fitting a new one.
Going to illuminate it though.

And it does have a red reflector. It is on the Number plate.



This picture shows the angle the rear fender is at.
Obviously the tail light is still fixed to the rear subframe in this picture. But you can clearly see where it is now mounted.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/binge/DSC00520.jpg

[binge]

Oh yea, And the LED tail light lense has a (E) Mark on it.

[gaz56]

Looks alright to me. If you got a really anal cop then he might get funny about it, but I can't see it being a problem generally.

[TAX MY BRAIN]

doesnt look so bad from that angle i take it all back
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[Kickstart]

[Moonie]

Isn't your dad a copper?

Ask him, would be more helpful to find out whether you're likely to get nicked than whether it's technically illegal.
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[binge]

My Dad is a copper yes. He isn't a traffic cop though. He doesn't know every little detail about car and bike legalities.

The bike came with an LED strip tail light. Pretty much identical to the one currently fitted.

It can be seen from left and right too.

Not sure on the angle mind.




Ben

[Kickstart]

Hi

Do you have any indicators? If not they could get you for that as well.

In reality I suspect most traffic coppers do not know the details of lighting regulations, let alone normal coppers.

All the best

Keith
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[binge]

No indicators. But no indicator loom or switch.
Spoke to my local bike MOT station, And Andy, The MOT'er said as long as the switch isnt there, it doesn't need indicators.


I was lead to believe this was just for bikes registered before a set date, or registered as an enduro.

If push comes to shove when the MOT is due, I'll just Daylight MOT it.

I've been offered a nice R1 actually for a nice price too.
All black, With polished frame and white decals.

So the pit bike will become an ornament in my garage until I win the lottery, buy acres of land, And have the pit bike to play on in my garden.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Legally it needs indicators. Too new, and (I think) nowhere near enough ground clearance to get away with the off road clause.

To be honest I suspect that daytime MOTs are probably dubious. Suspect there is some 1930s legislation that makes lights compulsory.

All the best

Keith
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[alun111]

Keith...

Are LED rear lights illegal? Seems to be what you're saying but I might just be getting confused.

Binge... That looks absolutely fine to me... maybe make the light horizonal though... I know it wouldn't look as good but it makes it more viewable.
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[Kickstart]

[Flip]

I've had bikes pass MOT's with aftermarket LED's if that helps.

[virus]

Binge, are all the mods on that declared on the insurance?

Not having a dig here, just asking, because if not, then a clever cop can nail you, and even if they are declared they could probably think up something regarding numberplates, exhausts etc etc.


Basically, it looks pretty legal so you should be fine, just pray you never get pulled by an arsey cop.

Cheers
John
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owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance.

[binge]

None of the Mods are declaired.

Reason:


Pit bikes differ SO much. There is no way of saying "those forks arent standard".


Its like getting a Fiesta Zetec, And taking off the 15" alloys, and changing them for some different 15" Ford Alloys.



Once I put the 150 lump in, I will be sending the V5 off and re-registering it as a 150cc bike, And informing my insurance.




Ben

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[Kal]