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CRF_Rider
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: RS Motorcycles Reply with quote

Bought a DR-Z not even a month ago from RS motorcyccles in todmorden. 15th of December.

Insured it etc etc went out on it an it was fine for a week then it wouldn't pick up right. So took it down to a local bike mechanic and it turns out the big end has gone including piston,rings,bearings etc etc.

went across to RS today to tell them about it and they didn't want to know. Just said oh there is no warrenty on any bike. to which we replied well we bought it in good faith that everything was running sound and it turns out its fecked. An he just said not my problem.

£450 repair bill we knew we wouldn't get the whole amount but even a little bit towards it would have been nice. Especially from a biker run firm.

so anyone who is thinking of going be VERY VERY carefull. They are nice to ya when your thinking of buying it but don't want to know as soon as you have bought it.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest you check out the sale of goods act. As a dealer they have a responsibility to ensure goods are fit for purpose, they can't just ignore it.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a new bike or second hand? Even if second hand it must have a warranty of some kind. Traders can not sell items sold as seen.

Contact Trading Standards and find out your next step.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

strag wrote:
I suggest you check out the sale of goods act. As a dealer they have a responsibility to ensure goods are fit for purpose, they can't just ignore it.


They sell salvage bikes. As such I would guess that the purpose that they sold the bike for was "spares or repair", hence whether it goes wrong or not is not relevant as to whether it is fit for purpose (unless you were buying it specifically for the component that has failed and they said it was OK).

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PostPosted: 17:00 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the bike an insurance write off as iirc that is what they sell there?

Not sure if the law is different for these.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
strag wrote:
I suggest you check out the sale of goods act. As a dealer they have a responsibility to ensure goods are fit for purpose, they can't just ignore it.


They sell salvage bikes. As such I would guess that the purpose that they sold the bike for was "spares or repair", hence whether it goes wrong or not is not relevant as to whether it is fit for purpose (unless you were buying it specifically for the component that has failed and they said it was OK).

All the best

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From his post he bought a bike to ride that failed miserably within a week. I certainly would not sit on my arse and do nothing.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

strag wrote:
From his post he bought a bike to ride that failed miserably within a week. I certainly would not sit on my arse and do nothing.


Not sure they sell them to be just ridden. From their FAQ:-

RS Motorcycles wrote:

Q. Do you give warranties/ guarantees on the vehicles?

A. NO. Sorry, the vehicles are sold as salvage without any kind of warranty.


Pretty much says that they are selling them as no more than salvagable scrap.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe if they sell a bike on finance or whatever then they must provide a warranty. But if it is sold as a salvage, insurance write off or classed as spares or repairs then they don't.

Did you sign anything or did you just chuck loads of money at them and steal the keys?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If that is the case Keith, then yes I agree he is royally up the creek.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats what he said all bikes are sold as salvage its not our problem if the engine is knack'd as you bought it as salvage.

which btw i was not told about when it was bought. but he said we don't need to tell you its your duty to ask us. if you don't ask then its pretty much tough tit.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yzf_pyerat wrote:
which btw i was not told about when it was bought. but he said we don't need to tell you its your duty to ask us. if you don't ask then its pretty much tough tit.


In which case I would speak to someone with good knowledge of the trading laws.

I would expect the receipt to have something like "Sold as salvage" on it, and otherwise I would expect it to be reasonable to assume it was sold as a bike.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:11 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friend got his bike from their and it has been apart of the typical Aprilia problems, brother now has it.

But yeah on all their adverts it is We buy/sell crash damaged bikes.

Check your receipt wouldn't surprise me if it has something like, "sold as seen for spares and repairs." How places like that normally cover themselves.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give you £300 for it, or swap for the NTV650 a running working bike,

Rebuilding a DRZ400 should give me the practice I need to fix any engine trouble I encounter on my big trip.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

my first bike (nsr125) was from a bike breakers, had no damage and wasn't stolen but it still stated on the recipt sold as seen/spares.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Give you £300 for it, or swap for the NTV650 a running working bike,

Rebuilding a DRZ400 should give me the practice I need to fix any engine trouble I encounter on my big trip.


thats just not even funny

grow up! Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yzf_pyerat wrote:

thats just not even funny

grow up! Middle Finger


It is a bit I think I saw the exact same bike and thought there has got to be something up with that bike and bought an Africa instead.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
yzf_pyerat wrote:
which btw i was not told about when it was bought. but he said we don't need to tell you its your duty to ask us. if you don't ask then its pretty much tough tit.


In which case I would speak to someone with good knowledge of the trading laws.

I would expect the receipt to have something like "Sold as salvage" on it, and otherwise I would expect it to be reasonable to assume it was sold as a bike.

All the best

Keith


Thats if he even got a receipt. I don't believe he has stated whether he has or has not.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 09 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer i got a recipt from them will check it out in a min as its in the car.
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