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Jamie S
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Coolant mixing with engine oil.....kawasaki ER5 Reply with quote

Been for a run today (dad on the ER me on the TS) Did just over 150 miles, and when we got back I noticed that the ER coolant had mixed with the oil making a grey emulsified sludge in the sight glass.
The Expansion tank is empty so it seems fairly sure that it is coolant and not just condinsation.
Is this a common fault with ER's? If so what causes it?

The causes I can think of are
1) The head could be warped
2) Cracked cylinder block
3) Water pump seal leaking
4 Head gasket failure

Is there any easy way to determine which might be the cause? I don’t really want to pull the engine apart if I can avoid it.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first thought was head gasket....
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just dropped the oil and it's fine ..... Thinking

It's lost coolant and has a cloudy sight glass, yet the oil is like normal..... Confused
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a bit vague but usually if the leak is the head or the cylinders then it tends to pressurise the system causing coolant to blow out.

I seem to remember that they can leak around the thermostat but that shouldn't get into the engine?

I'd check all the hose connections and water pump housing first, its easy if nothing else.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
I'd check all the hose connections and water pump housing first, its easy if nothing else.


My little brains first thought was check for a leak before stripping engine bits unnecessary.

Was the expansion chamber and fluid actually correct and topped up or has it been going down rapidly lately? If the oil is fine but you have some gloop in the sight glass and tubing then it could just be a coincidence and a small leak.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

From what you say about the oil appearing fine and with the cold weather it could be that the stuff on the oil window is from condensation. I presume that going at the speed of the TS in this weather the bike had just not managed to warm up.

Was the coolant level in the ER OK before you set off?

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:05 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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From what you say about the oil appearing fine and with the cold weather it could be that the stuff on the oil window is from condensation. I presume that going at the speed of the TS in this weather the bike had just not managed to warm up.

Was the coolant level in the ER OK before you set off?

All the best

Keith


Hi, the coolant level was fine around a week ago, it has only been to the petrol station and back (5 mile), and the run today (150 mile)since it was last checked basicaly,the level was fine when it was last checked.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would not worry Jamie. I think the bike needs to get hot and clear the condensation.
Well done on 150 miles in this weather BTW.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since its not mixing with the oil then it must be leaking outwards.

I would fill it up and leave it standing for a few hours (got a center stand?). Go back and see if there are any drips or a pool of water.

Next I would start it up and let it run, revving it a bit while checking for drips, steam, or obvious leaks.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Agree with the above, but has any work been done on it recently?

Most dodgy place for a coolant leak would be the O rings where the metal water pipes join the head.

All the best

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PostPosted: 03:17 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Agree with the above, but has any work been done on it recently?

Most dodgy place for a coolant leak would be the O rings where the metal water pipes join the head.

All the best

Keith


yes, and if these o-rings are not sealed properly, coolant will leak from a hole in the side of the head in between the engine fin things, then collect at the front of the engine.

however as stated above, when its cold and the bike has stood (even overnight) water can collect and get mixed with the oil, tainting the colour. it needs to burn off the excess water, but it really needs to get warm to do this properly.

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PostPosted: 17:26 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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