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 Posted: 11:07 - 12 Jan 2009 Post subject: Puncture advice |
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When i got to work this morning i noticed my back tyre was a little low on air, after just going to check on it its flat as flat can be.
I have had a good ring round all the tyre centers around here and none will do a bike repair for some reason.
Does anyone know of any of the larger stores that either plugs tyres or at least sells the kits for emergencys.
Probably should have put this in workshop but im kind of desperate to get it sorted. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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Ring the nearest bike garage. To be fair most places that do bike tyres should be able to plug it provided it isn't too near the sidewall. ____________________ My Flickr |
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i took mine recently to ATS , but like most places they insist your remove the wheel first, then take it to get plugged. ____________________ Piaggo liberty 125 SOLD - CBR 125 - SOLD Aprilia RS 125 - SOLD CBR 400 NC29 - SOLD ZX6R currently own https://bikepics.com/members/Graprilia/ |
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Thanks very much for the replies it seems im hitting a brick wall because nobody here will touch the speed rating on a 750 tyre. Ill keep trying if not its a new tyre for me. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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Its definately a puncture and its pretty much center of tyre so if anything is repairable that should be. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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Thanks again for the help iv managed to find one at last that will repair it for me but i tried most of the ones in the phone book and was told not a prayer at each one.
I thought it would be a lot easier to sort out a puncture, i will invest in an emergency plug kit for next time. ____________________ And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?
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Slime 8 quid a go Halfrauds.
***Walloper runs and takes cover from the 'Oh Never user Slime in a bike tyre' mortar attack***
If the tyre's on it's last life then what harm is there?
ps Make sure the garage air pump is 'working' before pulling the valve out the wheel though  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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A note about that stuff ...
If that is put in the tyre, it deems the tyre non repairable 'properly' i.e. you can't use it to get you out of trouble, then get a garage to fix it properly after. ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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A note about that stuff ...
If that is put in the tyre, it deems the tyre non repairable 'properly' i.e. you can't use it to get you out of trouble, then get a garage to fix it properly after. |
Spot on, although I thought it could still be repaired sometimes. All down to the luck of the draw. ____________________ My Flickr |
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why not but a plug repair kit and do it yourself??
most bike shops will have them in stock ____________________ stoke@hg-shop.com
ring us on 01782 612111
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I have used slime in bike tyres, wheel barrow tyres and have had it in my car tyre now for two years. No problemo...
Whoever says it deems the tyre unrepairable is talking horse shite.
This next bit is true though:
I have found a lot of lazy bastarts who own/operate/or work (Loosest sense of the word) selling/fitting tyres.
You can wash slime out of the tyre using plain water. They do not like the extra hassle when they budget their by the hour rate to repair tryes. It just costs more.
You MUST abrade any tyre back to base carcass before applying plugging solvent. So any 'activated' slime will be removed anyway if properly prepared for repair.
So slime will not damage a tyre.
Agreed if the tyre has been injured past the point of a structurally sound repair or is in sidewall you will need a new tyre.  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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Any tyre with a z speed rating or above cant legally be repaired.
I would be wary of getting one repaired to be honest - running around the tyre are kevlar belts, if a screw goes in and tears one or two of these then it will potentially affect the strength of the tyre.
Obviously the chances of this happening are quite slim, its up to you if you want to risk it or not.  |
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https://www.slime.com/
https://www.slime.com/index.php?p=faq#answer_1401_loc
As pasted all over bcf you can read a lot of shite on T' Internet.
The skill is to read between the lines and ask the correct questions.
I have had tyres repaired/swapped from rim to rim at tyre fitter shops. They moan about it. If they refuse take you business elsewhere.
I don't think it would be objectionable to pay for two repairs if the question is time. Or let them remove the tyre and you can wash yourself.
They will try to sell you new rubber of course when ever they can
Rogues some of them  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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My opinion.
I use my bike/s 365 (if possible) I can't carry a spare and a flat is not funny.
I have ultraseal fitted in the tyres for insurance.
Some folk say it affect balance. Not noticed it below 120mph. You shouldn't be doing that on public roads anyway.  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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"Can a tire treated with SLiME be professionally repaired?
Yes. When you get to the tire repair shop be sure to tell the service technician that your tire has SLiME tire sealant inside. SLiME is water soluble, non-toxic and non-flammable and can be rinsed away with water. Once the tire and rim are rinsed off they should be wiped down with a dry towel. The tire is now ready for a professional repair."
Interesting ...
Also if it water soluble, how does it work in the wet?!!?  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Awwwe... FFS....
Ahm no a flamin' chemist.
As it comes in contact with air it forms a scab over the hole. (Matrix/Mesh/Whatever)
I guess: There's a solvent which keeps the compound in solution when a tyre of a certain volume is charged with a specific amount of gloop. So it will remain in liquid form until it meets air and the volatiles are driven off. I think the heat and mechanical effects of the wound help to cure the stuff into a water resistant lump.
OK?  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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| Blue_SV650S wrote: | Air is what 80% Nitrogen IIRC isn't it??!!? ...  ... air by itself is not going to be much worse for a fire .. than ... well the air (atmosphere) the burning bike is sat in is it!!  we are not putting pure oxygen in you know .. its plain old air ... sure it is under pressure, so more air per CC ... but its not really the largest fire risk on a bike is it!!
People put pure nitrogen in as it is more stable on pressure over a range of temperature. |
I used to buy in tyres at US$10,000 a pop. about 1.7m US$/year. Tyres last longer in clean nitrogen. They do not catch fire if overheated (no oxygen to support combustion) causing blow-out and pressure was maintained saving fuel and improving traction. But that is splitting hairs to prove a point really.
For your perusal..
https://www.blackcircles.com/general/technology
"Why fill my tyres with Nitrogen?
Why would you want to do this? The benefits of Nitrogen filling are as follows:
* Improved comfort of ride
* Improved safety
* Increased fuel savings
* Improved life of tyre
Nitrogen has long been the accepted gas medium for filling aircraft tyres, racing tyres and heavy mining and construction vehicle tyres. Nitrogen is used for safety reasons and to ensure that tyres are always at a constant pressure. Compressed air, the traditional medium for inflating car tyres, contains both oxygen (21%) and nitrogen (78%).
The rubber tyre is like a membrane, through which oxygen permeates three times faster than the nitrogen. The result is that the oxygen slowly leaks out through the rubber walls, and the under-inflation leads to higher tyre wear with a consequent decrease in safety and comfort, and higher fuel costs."
https://suvs.about.com/od/tiresandwheels/a/nitrogentires.htm
" Ingersoll Rand claims that there are several distinct advantages to filling your tires with Nitrogen:
* Better air pressure retention -- Nitrogen doesn't seep out through the tire walls like Oxygen can, so tires remain fully inflated longer.
* Enhanced fuel economy -- Nitrogen dissipates heat faster than air, and heat causes rolling resistance. "Maintaining tire pressure can boost fuel economy by as much as 6 percent."
* Longer tread life -- Filling your tires with pure Nitrogen makes tires run cooler, which will reduce tire failure. It also prevents oxidation, which can cause tread separation and belt failure. Since Nitrogen doesn't carry moisture, it won't cause rust on the inside of rims and valve stems.
* Slow chemical aging -- "Filling a tire with Nitrogen also significantly slows the chemical aging process of the tire's rubber components."  ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 36 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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