Bulldogs to change?

[jack_zxr400]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1114766/Iconic-British-Bulldog-scrapped-Kennel-Club-overhauls-breeding-rules.html

Not sure how many people on here have dogs (I have 3 currently) but I think it would wrong and a shame if they did change them
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[Skudd]

The Bull Dog of 100 years ago looks very different from todays. They have been made characatures of what they have been. but now that they have been bred to look like this then it ould be kept and not taken any further.
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[plugger147]

I think it's a good thing, it's about time the kennel club did something decent for a change. I hope they are going to monitor bloodlines a bit better as well and start refusing to give certificates to breeders who inbreed as well.
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[thegubner]

I didnt read the article, but the bulldog having to be changed is not a shame, its something that should have already happened.

The way the bulldog has been made to look is only pleasing to us, the dog suffers to the point of cruelty all for vanity that it doesn't ask for.

[Skudd]

[ish765]

Yep I agree. It was wrong to change them to what they are now. I lot of them suffer due to overzealous manipulation to what we find astatically pleasing.

[jack_zxr400]

its wrong to change them to what they are like now but then are they guna do exactly the same thing to change them to what they think is right? and who gets to decide what they should look like?
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[plugger147]

They looked a lot better and healthier before they were made to look like they do now, the older dog walked not waddled and had a very nice looking face compared to the wrinkled up mug they have now.
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[Walloper]

Hey Gov wazup?
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[strag]

'Breed standards' endorsed by the KC have made a right mess (health) of a lot of breeds. In particular flat faced dogs, i.e. bulldogs, boxers, to the point where they have seriou breathing problems.

The inbreeding that so called 'caring' breeders have carried out is shocking. All the majority of them care about is meeting breed standard, not the health and well-being of the breed.

Have a look through a few of the links relating to the BBCs documentary about pedigree dogs, breeders and the KC.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=BBC+kennel+club&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
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[mistergixer]

I won't be sorry to see them go either, they're a pretty hideous looking dog IMHO.
Historically, i don't think it's really the KC's fault that the Bulldog is such a mess, i think the Bulldog died out back in the 1800's when 'bloodsports' (bull & bearbaiting etc)were outlawed (1835 IIRC)and no-one really wanted big fierce dogs that ate loads of food anymore - so they bred the modern squat deformed 'English Bulldog' as a more acceptable 'companion' dog.
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[yen_powell]

Do they still force them to wear top hats and union jack waistcoats?
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[plugger147]

After having our dobe(R.I.P Jet) I'd never own a kc reg dog again, a great temperament and character let down by the body of inbred freak. The kennel club weren't even interested when I rung to tell them he'd died of a heart problem that was very probably genetical.
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[oldpink]

about time this happened
dogs that have to have cesarean section births tells you theres a problem
with there breeding not to mention other medical issues they have
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Cats with no fur,dogs born doomed from the start with inbreeding ailments,sheep bred so they produce more meat at the expense of being able to birth easy. Cattle also have been genetically tuned-up.

We just can't help meddling, some for good and plenty for bad.

2 of my 3 dogs playing.

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[plugger147]

I don't think he needs too, .
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[stinkwheel]

Traditional bulldog:
https://www.boydsbulldogs.com/photos/Emmasun.jpg

Kennel club version:
https://www.petcity.gr/images/products/english_bulldog.jpg

French kennel club version:
https://animal-world.com/dogs/Non-Sporting-Dog-Breeds/images/FrenchBulldogWDN_Ap6D.jpg

I rest my case.
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[WildGoose]

Makes me sick that we impose on a dogs quality of life simply because we can. Scored on how we think they should look, and how they fit in with the image we wish to put out... wankers, basically.

There needs to be an end to the fashion accesory dogs, these fucked up breeds sit in the back of your trendy BMW mini clubman on a pink pillow with tassles.

Get a grip, and get a real dog.

There is an obsession with "what is it?" because people are going on a pre-conceived set of standards.

Get it all the time with ours, apparently he isnt 'labrador' enough for some. Assuming they mean pointy faces and funny walk due to fucked back legs/hips. I'll take mine anytime, thanks.
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[mistergixer]

Before i got my dog (SBT) recently, i did a bit of research into the 'Bull' breeds and their history.
The 'Traditional' Bulldog Stinkwheel shows is not the 'original' Bulldog - originally, the Bulldog was a taller, leaner and larger beast all together. The Bulldog comes from the Mollossian (sp?) family of dogs (English Mastiff, Dogue du Bordeaux etc)and shares their large, muscular build and heavy thickset skull.
Traditionally, the Bulldog was a multi-purpose dog; mostly it was used for herding livestock (esp cattle), as a guard dog, and for protecting herdsmen from wild animals (wolves etc). It was also (less frequently) used for bear-baiting - this was primarily for the purpose of tenderising the meat prior to butchery(it was apparently a crime for a butcher to sell 'unbaited' bull meat), and was less common than in later years (1700 - 1850).
In these years, 'bloodsports' became a popular form of public entertainment and would be frequently staged at fairs and shows around the country. Aside from the human bloodsports (prizefighting etc)at the shows, the most popular events (drawing the most prize money& wagers) were bear and bullbaiting.
Given the popularity of the animal sports, the Bulldog design became altered slightly in order to make it more successful; the dog became shorter in stature and more squat and muscular(supposedly in order for it avoid the bull's horns as it approached), the head and jaws strengthened and enlarged(obviously, in order to obtain a better grip), and the hind quarters made more slender (supposedly this reduced the risk of spinal injuries when the dog was thrown off by the bull).
By the time bull and bear baiting were made illegal (1835), the original breed of Bulldog had become pretty much extinct(although traces of it continue in the Bullmastiff etc), and the demise of baiting led to the demise of the 'traditional' (fighting) Bulldog(although its blood carried on in the bull terrier crossbreeds, mostly bred by northerners for dog fighting), and the creation of the modern absurdity which positively cannot do any of the work that either an original or traditional Bulldog could do.

From this (1800s):
https://barkadaworkingdog.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/criprosa.29170300_std.jpg

To this (1830s):
https://barkadaworkingdog.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/BenWhite1836.29170312_std.jpg

To this:
https://www.petcity.gr/images/products/english_bulldog.jpg
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