help setting up distortion pedals *gutar*

[dransy]

Right my mate gave me 2 pedals one is an ibanez tube screamer and the other is an ibanez autowah with distortion.

At the mo i can only get one at a time working due to lack of cables , right anyway

i wired up the tube screamer but it doesnt seem to make much difference!?

How do i set them up??
i only got a cheap amp with volume , gain and tone.

On the tube screamer there is drive , tone and level , how do i set it ? along with my amp? it sounds abit pants?
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[Hoffy]

What kind of sound are you going for dude ? like , metal , punk , trad rock ?
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[dransy]

Im after heavy metal kinda sound im in Drop C at the mo (C G C F A D) as im learning some killswitch engage
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

Tried the Ibanez manuals for them?

https://www.ibanez.co.jp/eu/download/manual/index.html#Electronics
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[The Tot]

I'd say have a play about with the settings. If you want really rich sounds, whack the tone to the max with drive and gain at medium levels. You ought to be getting some sweet sustain at that point - pinched harmonics should be relatively easy.

The cheap amp probably wouldn't help mate to be honest with you. You'd want a good-ish sort of amp; ideally 30W, doesn't matter if it's solid state or valve, but you really do need an Equaliser.

On the amp, for metal, i have treble maxed out, bass about 1/3 to 1/2 way and mid range anything up to 1/2. Have a play about. I normally use bridge pickups with their heights raised so the coils are closer to the strings - again, you get more input. I usually use those EQ settings for punk too; but usually turn down the gain, add more midrange and drop off the high end a little to have a more crunchier sort of tone... ideally, these are just basic settings, you'd need to experiment them for yourself.

Tube screamers are only effective if you have a good amp and good pickups i'm afraid - something like my mate's JCM 2000 TSL stack or my other mate's peavey XXX valve stack. If you've got a puny 5w amp, it won't work as well mate.
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[dransy]

As far as i know i have good pick ups , just bought an ibanezRG270

Dunno what pick ups are in it but it sounds awesome compared to my strat!

I think i might get a new amp tomoz then as this one is crap
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[The Tot]

Fair doos, you've got the same one as mine (powersounds) - I've got an RG320. What's you're budget for amps and what are you planning to get?
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[dransy]

Well i doubt it will be brand new most likely 2nd hand as there feking expensive

I just saw this and its local

https://leeds.gumtree.com/leeds/46/31712946.html

Other than that , if i get one tomorrow ill have about 100 quid but next week should have about 150
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[The Tot]

I used to have a Peavey Bandit 112 and they were brilliant amps for the price. I'm pretty sure you can find them for £100 second hand.

https://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/p.php?n=167

The bandits are pretty versatile amps and have 3 different tones per channel depending on what you want - with a tubescreamer, it'll supplement the amp's distortion nicely! That said, i also played on my mates Fender Princeton 65W, brilliant clean but a more aggressive distortion required the use of a Boss Metalzone. Anything over 65W is good enough. A bit excessiver for bedroom levels, but damn good for pissing off your neighbours!

If you can't get the bandit - https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Studio-Pro-112-Transtube-129_W0QQitemZ320332907949QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item320332907949&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Studio-Pro-112-Guitar-Amp-Combo_W0QQitemZ270328309786QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item270328309786&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
that's also a good amp.

I don't know why i'm not particularly fond of marshall's MG series amps. If you can find an AVT 50, they're also pretty nice and give a warm tone

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Marshall-AVT50-Special-Edition-Olive-Green-Combo-Amp_W0QQitemZ190278934445QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item190278934445&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
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[Rowey]

Get an Engl screamer. I got one and it's the best sounding amp I've ever come across. Everyone who's heard it agrees.
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[Rowey]

OT, just turn all the nobs about until it sounds sweet. You wont break it.
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[The Tot]

My next door neighbour had an engl screamer, only 50W but man did it shake his room. Funnily enough, i was just looking at youtube videos for ENGL screamers before i posted my last comment!

But for 150 quid, you're probably restricted to solid state. tbh, we caused a whole lot of aggrivation at uni when a few of us had valve amps ... lets just have a jam at 1am with the amps turned to just about vol 4-5?
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[dransy]

Awesome these seem alright , just read some reviews n what not from people , If i dont really see owt tomorro i think i might get one of those next week!

Theres one on ebay but its local pick up only
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[Flip]

Had a tube screamer for a day once before taking it back to the shop because I hated it so much. Sounded weak as f*ck, but maybe that was due to a crappy amp and guitar that I had at the time.

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Humbucker > Tube Screamer > valve amp = cream to crunch
Humbucker > Boss MT-2 > valve amp = head blown off
You're gonna find it difficult to reach a modern metal tone with a tubescreamer, so have a look around.
If you go for a valve amp then i'm sure you know how loud they are compared to Solid State. Even the tiny terror amp at half power (7watts) is far too loud for any bedroom, i sometimes use an attenuator..that helps..anyways i'm rambling. most important thing isn't pedals its axe n amp n enjoyment.


Pat

Ps oh and my choice of valve amp for your budget would be a Valve Jnr, i picked 1 up changed it's speaker for a Jensen (same amp but different branding is the Harley Benton). Next would be a Blackheart Killer Ant, then save for a nice cabinet.Finally a Tiny Terror. All these come in heads/combos apart from the Killer Ant which incidentally is the most fun you can have with 5 watts
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