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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Peugeot 306XLD not starting... Reply with quote

I'm after some cage help here, car wouldn't start this morning (so a nice 50 minute walk to work Mad , but anyway...)

It's a M reg XLD, over Christmas it was left standing a couple of weeks and the battery went flat. Once charged up it was fine, and has been fine (in regular use) until this week.

Last couple of mornings the battery has seemed 'funny', like one sluggish whirr but then still started up straight away and ran fine. So I assumed it was the cold and it would charge itself up while running and be fine.

This morning, it's like the battery is totally dead. Turns over to the extent of a weak 'chug' every few seconds. Tried double heating the glow plugs, tried using a fully charged booster pack on the battery, but nothing (and it's drained my power pack).

I don't really know anything about diesel engines, what turning over should sound like etc.

I'm thinking either:

Arrow Battery fucked beyond help - need new one.
Arrow Glow plugs all fucked at once
Arrow Starter motor? Or would I expect a clicking rather than chugging?
Arrow Fuelling issue? Not sure how this works with diesel engines
Arrow Air filter? A google search mentioned this, that because the engines draw air constantly, the filter needs to be clean etc or summit?

I'm thinking the battery is most likely, but anything else I could check first? any suggestions appreciated Karma

Cheers
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would go along with the battery being dead. Diesels need a lot of power to crank them over, so possible the booster pack just wasn't up to the job.

Would think it is unlikely all the glow plugs have died at once.
With the starter motor it would depend what has gone wrong, but likely you would just get a click from the solonoid and nothing from the starter.
Diesel fueling is the work of an expensive Satan. Possibly an issue but unless you have just run it out of fuel then I would leave this until last.
Air filters do need to be fairly clean, but tend not to cause a sudden failure (well, unless someone has directed a hose pipe up the intake onto it).

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:20 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above. Diesel vehicles can take an awful lot of juice to start and one of those little rechargable booster pack things might not have enough oomph.

I remember trying to start my mate's 3 litre 4Runner up after the battery went totally flat. In the end we needed a van and TWO sets of heavy duty jump leads to provide enough juice.

Go and get a new, fully charged battery.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with the above, certainly sounds like the battery is at fault.

Not only are diesels heavy on the battery the cold weather won't help either as batteries tend to struggle to retain power in cold conditions (can't quite remember why though!).

There are some tests to see whether the battery is faulty but I'd say a new battery is never that bad an investment tbh Thumbs Up
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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys Thumbs Up , guess I need to find 50 quid for a new battery then!

Oh well Gixer project on hold again Crying or Very sad Laughing
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Cigaro
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 30 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayvfr wrote:
batteries tend to struggle to retain power in cold conditions (can't quite remember why though!)


Mostly because of the chemistry of the battery itself, but also because the oil is a lot thicker when cold, couple this with the high compression ratio of most diesels and you have an engine that is very hard to start.

The battery in both mine and my mother's car died recently. They were probably due a replacement anyway but it's amazing how much the cold can affect them.
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