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RooRoo
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: rustky looking stuff in petrol tank Reply with quote

in my petrol tank i have a rusty looking kinda stuff on the metal, its a k reg so quite old, is this normal?
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

also, the engine just lost revved and died, i can hear petrol in the tank but not a lot, and it tends to work for a while on the primary tank then stop, and lasts quite a while on the secondary, i guess that means im just out of petrol rather than it being messed up...im very new to this, lol
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think....... it might be... rust?

Laughing

And if you try putting some of that liquid from the big smelly petrol stations in the tank Thinking it MIGHT just work Eh?
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
also, the engine just lost revved and died, i can hear petrol in the tank but not a lot, and it tends to work for a while on the primary tank then stop, and lasts quite a while on the secondary, i guess that means im just out of petrol rather than it being messed up...im very new to this, lol

If you put more petrol in, does in run properly again?
If it does, you've run out of petrol - see, it's easy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry lol, just someone looked in it an said 'that looks bad, it could stop the petrol flow.' but the guy that said that is a twat anyway..now i have to WHEEL it to the station to fill it up, great
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I'll be serious for once...

The rust is probably from lack of petrol and the bike being stood for a while, or not used much and not been filled up with petrol?

It happens when the tank is left empty.

It's not really good to have that in your fuel supply so you want to clean the tank out before re-filling it.

don't USE WATER

Get some petrol and find some "tank cleaner" I can't remember what it's called but I've seen it in shops just go and ask in Halfords or something (on second thoughts... Eh?)

Clean it out with the cleaner stuff and some petrol then fit back to bike and re-fill it and you should be ok.

Hope that helped Cool
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

*had no idea how to take the tank off*
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

What bike is it? Have you got a Haynes manual for it?
Usually they are attached at the rear, underneath the seat (so will require removal of the seat first) by a bolt. There may be other smaller bolts at the front of the tank to attach it to the frame rails.
Also you need to identify the fuel pipe arrangement (for reassembly) and undo the spring clips (or other hose clamp) just make sure you switch to OFF on the fuel tap first, or get some fuel hose (from a bike shop) and drain the tank into a can.

Rust is bad, it will clog up your fuel filter, the carbs (if it gets that far) and is almost certainly causing your loss of power.

Let us know how you get on. Where are you ? If poss you can can over to my house and I can help.

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PostPosted: 19:39 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

im in canterbury, i think the loss of power is being caused by the low fuel isnt it? its fine on the secondary tank but with the primary i cant start the bike without choke, i think its just out of petrol (almost)
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a gs125 by the way
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

does this sound like im just really low on petrol, on my primary tank?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes don't run on air.

Put some petrol in it and try again!!!
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
its fine on the secondary tank


Your reserve comes from the same tank (just the bottom part of it).

You are just low on petrol. Put petrol in problem solved. Rolling Eyes

The rust.... depends how much there is in there but to be honest to save hassel at the moment I'd just leave it for now and see if theres any problems AFTER you put some petrol in it.
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, thanks Smile for some reason it still starts up for a while, on primary, gets weaker and weaker then cuts out, then if i try again another 15 mins later it'll go again for a slightly shorter amount of time, but its fine on secondary, just hope i have enough petrol to get to the station..
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes - thats just excess fuel sitting about that it's burning off, the reserve uses the same tank as the primary, just it is tapped off a bit lower.

You will probably have enough in reserve for a good 5 to 10 miles, but the idea is that as soon as you hit reserve you start trying to find a station to fill up - you'll get to your local petrol station fine.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay, good Very Happy should be riding by saturday after my cbt, sounds childish but its the most excited ive been since like...my 7th birthday!
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
sounds childish but its the most excited ive been since like...my 7th birthday!


You've led a sheltered life haven't you. Razz
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah :/ well no, im just looking forward to the freedom that will come with finally having transport that is fun and cheap to run!
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
transport that is fun


Never heard of a gs125 been described as that before, but there you go. Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

when you're used to a pushbike and legs it is...
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

With alllllllll that excitement and hyperness, just remember to fill the bike up with some petrol Wink Usually requires it once every 100 or so miles, it's not like Road Tax mate, you can't fuel it in advance for 6 or 12 months Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 12 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you fill it up, reset the small odometer thing (should be a twiddly knob). Then run the bike until it hits reserve.

In future, you can fill it up a few miles before it hits reserve, as you know how many miles it will last.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 13 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh and also, is it normal to NEED to open the choke all the way to start the bike? i can turn it off after about 5 seconds with it in, but i have to have it on to start it
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 13 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

RooRoo wrote:
oh and also, is it normal to NEED to open the choke all the way to start the bike? i can turn it off after about 5 seconds with it in, but i have to have it on to start it

It's certainly that way with my ZZR1200, and it was with my old Bandit too. I can't be certain for your bike, but I would be surprised if it was a problem.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 13 May 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my final absolutely stupid question is...ive never ridden before, cbt is saturday..when i fill it up with fuel will the pump shut off automatically, or do i need to keep looking in the tank?

(everyone starts somewhere...lol)
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