r6 yay or nay

[ruffriders]

ok so its my b,day soon and i wana treat myself ive seen an r6 2002 dnt no mileage yet for £2700

im on a 33bhp licence tho because i no the guys they said they will do it all for £50

but ive been thinking what would an r6 be like at 33bhp

anybody got 1 ?

cheers chris
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had : aprillia sr 50 got: hyosung gt 125r scorpion exhaust << wrote off cat c kawasaki er6n
cbt:25/05/07 theory : PASSED 21/04/08 practical : passed 04/06/08 woop
You call it traffic, I call it a playground........no bike now looking for a new one in feb ?2000

[qpop]

The generally accepted wisdom is to get a bike close to 33bhp when you're on the restriction.... the logical reason being they'll handle the restriction better. Presumably torquier bikes take restriction better too, so Twins and singles rather than IL4s....

I think, a better reason for getting a bike closer to 33bhp is that 6 months down the line when you crave more power and somehow decide you can justify breaking the law and removing the restriction (I swear officer I never did it!) you're less likely to throw yourself off the first bend you come to...

My 20p
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[ruffriders]

thanks for the info an that but i just realy want it lol

was thinking of a vfr 400 but dont know

got £2500 burning a hole in my pocket and dono wat to do

iv only got a year left on 33bhp

cheers chris
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had : aprillia sr 50 got: hyosung gt 125r scorpion exhaust << wrote off cat c kawasaki er6n
cbt:25/05/07 theory : PASSED 21/04/08 practical : passed 04/06/08 woop
You call it traffic, I call it a playground........no bike now looking for a new one in feb ?2000

[craigs23]

Can anyone translate as to what this gentleman's querying?

[Netting87]

Would I be right in saying an insurance quote for an R6 would be the same regardless of power output? The only reason I ask is because I cannot recall seeing a 'Is the bike restricted?' question when looking for quotes. Surely then the smartest choice would be a 33bhp or similar bike for a year.

Also agree with what qpop is saying in that it might not be great to ride with the restriction, and if you don't enjoy riding it then whats the point? I've never ridden a restricted bike but I imagine I would rather ride something where I can explore its full potential rather than always thinking I wonder what she can really do, maybe it would spoil the fun I don't know.

My vote, go for the lower powered bike.
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[strag]

You want it, buy it. Sounds like you are getting it no matter what anyone says. It will (if you do it) be a restricted 600, never going to be the real deal is it.
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[bigjim]

Ive not riden an R6 that is resticted but it has been discussed loads of times.

The general outcome of which is it'll be pants

Think this is because the R6 is so revvy and makes all its power up the top end, restricting it leaves you with no power and the bike would never gets going.

Have a look at the 400's and if they are a bit small for you check out the thundercat or an older cbr600.

The R6 is a lot of bike for a new rider, thats not to say it can't be done but your better off with something a bit closer to the 33bhp mark.

The other half has got a CB400, same engine as the NC23 CBR400 (I think) and I rode it before and after the restiction, it does take a bit of the nip out of it and the top end is about 85 but its still really good fun and quick enough to beat most cars off the line

Jim
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'08 - R6 - The Pocket Rocket - Sold
'09 - Street Triple R - The Monster

[Blue_SV650S]

Ok, this is a random 2000 (exactly the same engine as the 2002) R6 dyno found via google ....

https://image.sportrider.com/f/9054934/146_01_z+2000_r6_dyno_chart+.jpg

Your bike will be like any other 2002 R6 that is never revved over ~5,500 RPM .... its still the same bike ... it just has ~1/3 the peak HP ...

Next question ....
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[G]

The issue isn't really torque I'd say - the R6 produces more than most 33hp or near bikes I reckon.

The issue to my mind is gearing.

A 33hp stock bike will have five gears that top out at what might be a theoretical 110mph. An R6 with the same power will only need maybe three gears to get there - so it's like you're riding the slower bike with just second, fourth and sixth.
Worse, though, is that people will naturually use the higher gears, where there's even less go available than on the stock bike.

So, go for some heavy down-gearing if you find it bothers you.

Oh and a large percentage of the time "I really want it" translates to "I really want to mate with it, because I think it looks that good" and has little to do with how suitable a *bike* it is for the rider .

Incidentally Blue, the power delivery will be changed a bit, but that's not too far off the truth of it .

[Blue_SV650S]

[st3v3]

Another point of view, is that as a new rider chances are you haven't experienced that amount of power so you won't be at a dis-advantage because you won't be aware of what the lack of power is like in comparison to normal, then it will be like a new bike when you get it un-restricted. Also, it will make you a better rider because you'll be able to do more with less power so you'll know yours and the bikes limits more.

That's among my selling points to the rents...
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[Seb]

Do you want an R6 in particular? Or are you after a decent supersports 600 in general? You could get something perfectly tasty for quite a lot less if you broadened your horizons a bit.
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[rac3r]

Would I be right in saying a ZX6 G/J model would be better?
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[Seb]

[rac3r]

[ruffriders]

thanks for all the replys

where to start

the graph was very help full and thanks for that

but i went to my dealer today and found out its been sold

my heart droped out my ars* lol

so im now looking for a bike similar

ive fort of i zxr but im not much of a kawi fan

ive fort of a old cbr before ive seen one for £850 1990 reg tho but i think a bit of work and it will be ok i guess just needs a new exhaust plus insurance for it is only *£900

where as the r6 was £1450

what you all think of the cbr it on bike trader , and at cheshire motorcycle salvage comments

most greatful

cheers chris
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had : aprillia sr 50 got: hyosung gt 125r scorpion exhaust << wrote off cat c kawasaki er6n
cbt:25/05/07 theory : PASSED 21/04/08 practical : passed 04/06/08 woop
You call it traffic, I call it a playground........no bike now looking for a new one in feb ?2000

[Blue_SV650S]

[ruffriders]

the 1988 f reg for £795 as a project but it looks a bit fu*ked
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had : aprillia sr 50 got: hyosung gt 125r scorpion exhaust << wrote off cat c kawasaki er6n
cbt:25/05/07 theory : PASSED 21/04/08 practical : passed 04/06/08 woop
You call it traffic, I call it a playground........no bike now looking for a new one in feb ?2000

[Blue_SV650S]

[Seb]

You mean this?

https://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/bikes/HONDA+CBR/Ne-2-4-7-8-27-64-104-133-146-236,N-121-239-4294967167-4294967196/advert.action?R=200820310120300&distance=156&postcode=cr0+1aa&channel=BIKES&make=HONDA&model=CBR&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=&vehicleYearOfManufacture=1988&vehicleRegLetter=F

Thats one hell of a step down from a 2002 R6

I'll raise you a ZX6r on ebay. Would't cost much to go get that restricted I bet, plus lets be honest now, it's going to tick the tart boxes and make you grin that little bit more as you jump on it
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[ruffriders]

what do you all think of the zx6r at cheshire motorcycle salvage its on bike trader the one for £1100

cheers chris
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had : aprillia sr 50 got: hyosung gt 125r scorpion exhaust << wrote off cat c kawasaki er6n
cbt:25/05/07 theory : PASSED 21/04/08 practical : passed 04/06/08 woop
You call it traffic, I call it a playground........no bike now looking for a new one in feb ?2000

[Blue_SV650S]

[The Tot]

If you WANT to get a crash damaged bike, make sure the repairs have been done - mine was a CAT C but I got it for £2400 delivered! It would have been 2150 othewise (but 250 is a good price to pay for delivery IMO with the amount of snow we had and the hassle it would have been to train it up and ride down in the snow and pay for fuel etc!). I saw a few bikes on biketrader from cheshire salvage but I got detracted when they were doing some subliminal messaging in polish - so it's rather dodgy!

Back to your original question; don't get an R6, get a cheap and cheerful ZX6R - G/J's can be had for 1400 and have very good engines, good comfort and even better tank range. With the R6, you're guaranteed that it'll have been thrased and it also has a questionable 2nd gear! Ninjas or Gixxer Srads is where the smart money is - honda's generally hold their value better, hence are more expensive for the same model year. I've had enough of R6 riding 18-20 year olds who subsquently mess up a very good bike due to their overexhuberance to ride a bike which they bought with their heart and not with their head; combined with a distinct lack of riding skill (not saying that I'm any better). For a first big bike, don't spend more than £1500 even it is for a supersports 600. Buy with the common knowledge that the previous owner at some point would have been a keen teen and would have thrashed and crashed it; but make sure it's mechanically and structurally sound.

Sorry for a bit of a rant, but there are other choices out there for young un's other than R6's.


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[Bikeless]

I personally would get a sports 125 and tune the nuts off it but that's just me.