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PostPosted: 08:53 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Suzuki USA recall GSXR1000 K5 and K6 frames Reply with quote

Came across this in my travels today

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=35357

Suzuki USA have done a voluntary recall on the gsx-r 1000, due to issues with cracking/breakage of the frame under some situations

They state only 1/2 of 1% of all gsxr 05/06 world wide have this issue (but thats still alot of bikes)


Whole article can be found in above
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linky no worky.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 19 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No UK recall yet, so don't worry about it. It may well be that the affected batch was ear marked for the USA, so it's not a problem for anyone else.

Link still not working btw, I checked the VOSA site.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 20 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

try here
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35357

USA state its a world wide problem!
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 20 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've personally seen two frames fail like this in the U.K and both were on the track. Very poor welding on the joint as the frames on both had spilt the weld straight down the middle.
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 20 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't be too weak, remember McGee sat on one for quite a while.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 20 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read about this happening ages ago.

Welds were not penetrating deep enough around the headstock. I thought they had recalled them already.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Recall hits UK. Reply with quote

Guys. This has hit the UK now. Had a letter from Suzuki yesterday. Hard to believe a motorcycle manufacturer can't weld!

Second time in the last few years. They are offering to put a 'brace' over the welds and use some adhesive! They have got to be joking. Why don't they use some masking tape as well? Unbelievable.

I wouldn't let a dealer near this kind of work nor do I want a bloody great brace showing on both sides of the frame. Resale value? Probably just lost a couple of grand off the market value which Suzuki will need to compensate each bike affected. Sad
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this be deemed as selling a product which wasn't fit for purpose ... refund anyone?

If I had one of these I don't think I ride it again ... unless you want the possibility of going face first into the deck!!
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any pictures of this new brace?

I'd imagine the brace will sort it out ok. They would have spent a whole lot of money developing it to save themselves more in the future.

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They are offering to put a 'brace' over the welds and use some adhesive!


You'd be suprised at how strong some adhesives are.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've posted a few pictures here Shocked

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=166684

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PostPosted: 18:52 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new brace is two brackets and a metal rod that gets epoxied on near the head.

I got the paper work somewhere.

Simple enough but takes a couple of days as they dye test it and all that.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

McGee are you gonna change your sig to "Gixxers are made of adhesive" now?
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Recall hits UK. Reply with quote

gateleyjk wrote:
Hard to believe a motorcycle manufacturer can't weld!

I don't think it is a welding problem as such, more of a design issue. I also believe that if the bike is used normally then you are unlikely to suffer a problem, but as soon as you start wheelie-ing the bike and slamming the front on and off the floor, that is what causes the problem to surface.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pictures on the web look like the weld has failed - totally sheared. I agree that you hope it is only under extreme handling that this could happen. Wheelies are not that extreme of course! Why has it taken them 3 years to pick this up?

What's the advice out there? Leave it as it is or have the work done?
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've not got a GSXR but if I did then I would certainly take it for the work to be done.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 08 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

adhesive isn't going to hold the frame together if you start braking at 150mph and the frame gives way. so whats the point in getting it fitted?
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:
adhesive isn't going to hold the frame together if you start braking at 150mph and the frame gives way. so whats the point in getting it fitted?


You do know that epoxy is the strongest man made adhesive 'ever made' don't you?

I'd put my bets on the epoxy holding up more than a brittle weld in the event of a crash.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Re: Recall hits UK. Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
I also believe that if the bike is used normally then you are unlikely to suffer a problem, but as soon as you start wheelie-ing the bike and slamming the front on and off the floor, that is what causes the problem to surface.


Well for some people wheelying is normal. Besides, what happens if you hit a speed bump with similar force to landing a dodgy wheely? Or a pothole for that matter? The simple fact is; the frame should be able to handle anything you throw at it without breaking. It should be designed to bend not break.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:
adhesive isn't going to hold the frame together if you start braking at 150mph and the frame gives way. so whats the point in getting it fitted?


Don't fly on any modern Airbuses or the new Boeing dreamliner then... It might fly apart at 150mph...
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
UrbanRacer wrote:
adhesive isn't going to hold the frame together if you start braking at 150mph and the frame gives way. so whats the point in getting it fitted?


Don't fly on any modern Airbuses or the new Boeing dreamliner then... It might fly apart at 150mph...


cos it'll be same stuff eh? and even if it is would you expect a motorcycle mechanic to mix the epoxy for Boeing to use on there aircraft? i think not so shut yer yap!
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UrbanRacer wrote:

cos it'll be same stuff eh? and even if it is would you expect a motorcycle mechanic to mix the epoxy for Boeing to use on there aircraft? i think not so shut yer yap!


Its not that different, and there are less stresses on a motorcycle frame than on an airbus wing...
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

gateleyjk wrote:
The pictures on the web look like the weld has failed - totally sheared. I agree that you hope it is only under extreme handling that this could happen. Wheelies are not that extreme of course! Why has it taken them 3 years to pick this up


It hasn't sheared at all, the weld has failed because of lack of penetration and fatigue. If the brace is designed properly it will divert the cyclic stresses away from the weld preventing it from failing.
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