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B10Hazard
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 09 Feb 2009    Post subject: Think i should get a new helmet ? Reply with quote

Okay at work we have a little cabin where we have our breaks and stuff.
The door is a pain the arse and you have to really give it some to shut it.
I always without fail leave my lid on the lockers just buy the door. .
You can see where this is going, walked into the cabin for a brew and my helmet was on the floor. Someone has slammed the door and my lid has just gone Drop !
It must be atleased 5 ft, i know they say anything above waste height but what do you think, there is no damage you can see, only a tiny chip and scratch. Its a flip up lid with like a tinted viser for the sun and was quite expensive really.
What would you do.
Nice one !

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PostPosted: 00:15 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If in doubt chuck it out Thumbs Down

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Lids are cheap etc etc
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get rid mate it's not worth the risk and they say what they say for a reason.
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get your lid x-rayed for damage if it is an expensive one..

I think Arai will x-ray any of their lids..
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legsy. wrote:
You can get your lid x-rayed for damage if it is an expensive one..

I think Arai will x-ray any of their lids..

Excellent idea Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legsy. wrote:
You can get your lid x-rayed for damage if it is an expensive one..

I think Arai will x-ray any of their lids..


Only Arai offer this service on Arai lids, and have to send it through the Royal Mail back to Phoenix in order to get it X-Rayed.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only see a small chip and scrape, it's what you can't see which could cause a problem.

The scrape and chip have effectively weakened that section of the helmet, and if they happen to be the bit that touches down first in an accident then they could lead to failure of the outer shell.

It's up you you mate, you will get loads of different opinions ... it could be perfectly safe, on the other hand it may not be Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its Arai then there is a good chance it is ok - Ive seen so many Arai's come back in real poor shape but have been cleared for road use still.
But get it checked out, its a 5 year warrantee - If you have the recept (Arai only) Then send it back.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BanditsHigh wrote:
You only see a small chip and scrape, it's what you can't see which could cause a problem.

The scrape and chip have effectively weakened that section of the helmet, and if they happen to be the bit that touches down first in an accident then they could lead to failure of the outer shell.

It's up you you mate, you will get loads of different opinions ... it could be perfectly safe, on the other hand it may not be Thumbs Up


It's not the casing that matters. Inside is the polystyrene-type-stuff, when that gets dented, it stays dented and therefore next time an impact is there, it doesn't pad it out as well.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one everyone.
I have an old cheap nitro lid at a freinds ill just use that till pay day Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not the casing that matters.


The casing does matter, if it splits then the foam will split as well!!

I didn't mentioned the foam and should have Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xenocide wrote:


It's not the casing that matters.


Well the casing does matter. The casing is there to protect you from objects penetrating the helmet and to protect you from abrasion, so I'd say it is quite vital to be fair.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BioHazard wrote:
Nice one everyone.
I have an old cheap nitro lid at a freinds ill just use that till pay day Very Happy

If the cheap lid doesn't fit as well, then I reckon it's likely to off you worse protection than your current one.

Of course, there's quite a few situations where no lid would be better protection than any lid, so the situation is far from black and white.
Situations like this are where the lids with tarty plastic bits stuck all over them can be quite good, as they tend to take the damage, rather than the protective bits.

Is it a Caberg? They have a slightly different shell to most I believe (well, the Justissumo GT does anyway); the actual Shell it's self is designed to be more flexible than others.
I was surprised at how effective it was after I had a decent knock to the head in one.
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PostPosted: 02:32 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your even 1% unsure of its condition get it replaced, if you're low on cash makro are doing a nice helmet for £35 at the moment, i bought 1 as backup for my Bell helmet but prefer the makro one, tis more comfortable and looks very sexy in matt black with silver dragons on it
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

scream aim fire wrote:
if your even 1% unsure of its condition get it replaced, if you're low on cash makro are doing a nice helmet for £35 at the moment,

As above, fit is all important.
If you crash in a helmet that doesn't fit very well, then you may even be more likely to damage to your head than with no helmet at all.
Definitely more likely to hurt yourself compared to a slightly knackered helmet that does fit in my experieince.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:


Only Arai offer this service on Arai lids, and have to send it through the Royal Mail back in Phoenix in order to get it X-Rayed.
So if you are not sure if it's damaged, let the Royal Mail make sure by playing football with it round the sorting office. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally am convinced there is a load of rot talked about the dropping of helmets.

The polystyrene protects your head by compressing between your head and the road, slowing down the impact and thereby reducing the maximum G your head is subjected to.

If you drop a helmet with no head in it, there is nothing to compress the polystyrene and I don't see why the impact reduction properties should be significantly reduced. Even if the impact actually split the polystyrene into a few chunks, it still ought to have the same compressable properties providing it remains in the correct place (ie between your head and the road).

Once again, I'd put money on them NOT having tested helmets to see if dropping them alters their protective properties. After all, somewhat over 60% of the people who posted in this thread say they would replace it. Must sell a hell of a lot of lids on the back of them being dropped.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dropped mine loadsa times. Clattered to the road too.
Still protecting me though.
Chips would be fine wide open crevasses would be a worry.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nail polish is good for covering over chips and scratches. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Nail polish is good for covering over chips and scratches. Thumbs Up

Is that true?
Helmet makers are always saying don't use this on it, don't use that.

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PostPosted: 18:47 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Nail polish is good for covering over chips and scratches. Thumbs Up



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PostPosted: 19:22 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll give you a fiver for it. I still use an helmet I brought in 1984.

Its a waste of time asking on here. You'll either get the brainwashed masses who believe that £1000 of leather and plastic will make them immortal or me and the other half dozen halfwits that would prefer to ride in just their pants.

The only person who matters is you. If you feel uncomfortable or nervous then your riding will suffer. Not one person on here can tell you what damage, if any, your helmet has suffered.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've crashed in two helmets. And both have been dropped several times and quite high heights.

First one I ended up smacking my head against a car door at 30. Nothing wrong there.

Second one when the Hornet pole vaulted and I landed on my head from a 9ft drop at about 50 or so.

And I'm fine. No headache, concussions or anything.

The whole dropping thing is bollocks to me. Unless something heavy was inside (not your gloves)
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 11 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the talk about replacing a helmet which has been dropped/crashed is talking about the worst case scenario, i.e it's damaged and it splist during an accident due to the damage.

Yes I'd probably agree that the majority of helmets are more than safe even after a drop/crash, but there is a chance it could fail ... a chance no matter how small is still a chance.

It's all down to how you view your life ... think of it another way, would you take your kid out on the bike with a helmet which has been dropped/crashed?

It's all about risk ... how much risk do you want to take?

And yes, I've used a helmet with chips/scrapes on it, but if I was involved in an accident and my nut hit the ground and the helmet was damaged then I'd replace it Thumbs Up
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