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5v3d3b0
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: No power after 8000 rpm...Rs 125 Reply with quote

Right, so one day it decided that it wouldn't have any more pull after 8000 rpm. Runs fine up to there apart from the unknown rattling screw at 7000, but then it has no more pull. It's as if the powervalve is non existent...
Any ideas?
EDIT: By the way the rattling screw has been like that for ages not only since this came up
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure its not the power valve rattling i would fix the rattle then worry about how fast it goes
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

like you say, the powervalve is set to open at a certain engine speed i.e. 8000 rpm
has the power valve worked before?
they do need regular cleaning to keep them operating properly and to stop them from sticking.
they used to restrict the bikes by turning the powervalve upside down or putting some sort of blanking plate in so ive heard.
that or RAVE valve solenoid is shafted.
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a service like 1000km ago and one of the things they did was clean the powervalve so it shouldn't be sticking... RAVE solenoid I guess could be another story. Expensive/Complicated to verify/fix?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you got a maynes manual? the solenoid for the rave valve is located under the tank. if you lift you tank up you should see the solenoid just tucked next to the chassis on the to right hand side to you if you were sitting on the bike. the rave valve is cable operated and sometimes needs adjustment. just out of curiosity, has your battery been working well lately? have you had any problems with that?
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is a symptom of a dead battery but mine is fine. I do have a Haynes and just remembered what you're talking about.
I did drop the engine so it'd be a bit of a fail if I had no clue what you're on about Laughing
The annoying thing is I recently moved and have no garage to work in.. I'll have to go to my mate's house on sunday or something... Confused
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 27 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Power valve should open just under 8000rpm. It should also be open below 2500rpm. Lift the tank, start the engine and check the solonoid operates around 2500rpm.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:43 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, the solenoid doesn't operate at all from what I can see, but the cable moves freely so the valve isn't stuck. New solenoid is about 80 quid, second hand is what I'll be going for.
But what will have caused the solenoid to break? Might be smart to find out why it broke so the new one lasts more than a day...
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Check the value is free to move. Also take the solonoid off the bike and check it moves freely. Also be worth checking for continuity between the 2 wires to the solonoid.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 10 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you might want to check that you are actually getting power to the solnoid Wink it may be a dodgy connection somewhere else
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would I check that?
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Svedebo wrote:
How would I check that?


mate, its most proberbly a fuse has gone.

on my mito ther eis an in-line fuse setup in the way to the PV servo and it only hold a 2amp fuse....any unneccery tension in the came it blows....saves you 100 uid every time Wink

check it and get back to us.


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PostPosted: 21:06 - 22 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
theres no in-line fuse on the pv.
as Keith has said, remove the solenoid & check the little piston is actually moving.
make sure its not stuck with crud.
no-one ever thinks to clean/lubricate the solenoid.
also check your getting power to the solenoid with a multi-meter.
if you manage to get the solenoid working, then its just a case of adjusting the cable tension.
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 24 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, fixed it now. I couldn't believe it when I found the problem. The RAVE control unit was disconnected Shocked
You probably know it's located in the tail of the bike where nobody can possibly get to it. How could it disconnect by just riding the bike? Anyway problem solved and it's good to be back on 30 horses again Very Happy
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