chain oiler

[tommybhoy]

I heard about these chain oilers,anyone have one,are they any good.How much do they cost?.Where on your bike do you put them..
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[Itchy]

I've got a Scotoiler , the non computerised one , it runs of a vacuum line to the carb so only oils when the engine is on.

It works , but since I only have a single sided oiler only one side of the chain is lubed and kept clean. So a double sided oiler is recommended. I have also modded mine to have a super 500ml endurance tank for free if you click my Spain2008 tour link in my sig.

You do have to set them fairly high though as below setting 5 the chain stays somewhat dirty, above 5 the chain is a fair bit cleaner and you can see it 'shinier' due to the wetness.

I keep the scotoiler itself under the seat and have the tube come out between the tail pod , new they cost about £55.


The alternatives are the loobman which is a manual one you need to press everynow and again and John's scat oiler which is just a hamster water bottle thing with a hole in the top, where you open the hole to allow the oil to escape which is a helluva lot cheaper.
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[MarJay]

Oxford do an electronic one, but I'd reccomend a Loobman. for the extra little bit of hassle I'd say the Loobman is better value. its £20 as opposed to £80+ and all you have to do is squeeze the bottle every now and again.
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can't you just use some of THIS STUFF ?

and spray it on say once a week?

edit: just read bendys thread at the top...shuts me up, gonna have to give my chain a clean tomorrow lol
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[MarJay]

[LeeR]

I used to use a TUTORO which was cheap and effective, though I secretly hankered after a Scottoiler.

I recently got a bargain off eBay a MK7 Universal Scottoiler (NIB) £40 and it's awesome though, so I passed the Tutoro on to beatnck2.

It's worth having a look on eBay now and again as they sometimes crop-up cheap like that.
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[neatbik]

And much appreciated it is too Lee
I still havent had a chance to fit it, hopefully i'll do it within the next couple of days so i can enjoy a well lubed clean chain

[loply]

I got something like this (but a lot smaller) from B&Q for about 49p:

https://www.aquatics.co.uk/prodimages/small/woaac014s.jpg

And plugged it into the end of my single sided scottoiler.

It was spot-on the right size and now drips oil skilfully onto both edges of the chain.

I set it with the nozzle about an inch or two in front of the bottom of the rear sprocket.
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[Itchy]

[Noxious89123]

Although the scottoiler people say that it'll oil both sides of the chain by "capilary action", it does infact only oil one side. By the time you've got the flow high enough for oil to make it onto the far side of the chain, it'll be flinging off all over the shop. I paid a little extra and got a "dual injector" fitted and it's been much better since. Takes alot of fiddling to get the nozzles sitting just right though! And keeping the nozzles clean is a must, else you'll end up with oil dripping from only one side. Easy to sort, just wipe any crud off the nozzle with a rag, put your finger over the other nozzle and wait until the now-unblocked nozzle starts dripping again.

They might be pricey, but they are waaaay superior to spray lube. Spray lube makes your chain get filthy really fast. Whereas with my scottoiler keeps the chain mostly clean. Still requires cleaning every now and again though.
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[tommybhoy]

i bought the chain wax,then a guy told me it doesnt work as good as oil and the chain really needs to heat up before it even starts to work its way into the links
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[G]

Anyone got a link to electronic DIY chain oilers (think one was using a diesel injector?)
Think I'll give something like that a go on the zx9 than improve as needed for the 690.

[alun111]

[MarJay]

The Loobman uses a couple of cable ties to direct the oil onto the chain. Maybe attaching a couple onto the end of a single injector would make a semi decent dual injector.
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[Itchy]

actually in the scotoiler box comes a T junction , I've been thinking of bodging that but its not as good as a Y junction as you need to bend the tubes back much farther.
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[G]

Could always have the feed going into the top of the T, so you've only got ninety degrees.

[krebsy]

So glad I've got mine on the VFR as (once adjusted) it is keeping the chain nice and clean. Mine's set up to deliver the oil onto the sprocket just above the chain and seems to get both sides ok with a single injector. Thinking about getting one of the slipper-blocks though as that'll clean and grease at the same time.

You can spot the difference a mile off with all the winter hacks in the carpark. All the non-scottoiler fitted bikes have some rust on their chains...

K.
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[tommybhoy]

I know its a saying never enough oil on your chain,but what concerns me is the access oil.I park my bike in my driveway to the side of the house which is all monoblocked and of course i dont want the other booting my balls
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[Noxious89123]

They don't drip oil unless they are running or you've really over-oiled it by having the flow set to high.
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[tommybhoy]

This is to LeeR

I am really just about to buy one of these tutoro chain oilers,just waiting for your reply.

My concern's
Is as i pointed out before my drive-way
Does this one/two drip's a min keep going even if your not moving?.

And the final......................
out of 10 how would you rate this compared to other's.My meaning is will i buy this a cheaper price or is it worth while saving that wee bit more and buying a top of the range..........
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[LeeR]

I found the Tutoro okay, to be fair for £15 it's a well made piece of kit and the designer/seller clearly cares about the product and isn't seeking to rip us off.

The practicalities of using it are as you suspect, as it is a gravity fed system you will have to turn it off when you leave the bike parked. Yes it will continue to drip and if you have the flow valve open too much you will end up with a puddle.

Also you do get a fair bit of fling, so you will probably get oil on your rear wheel. Personally I found it something I could live with as I'd been using 10w40 engine on my chain for a year or so.

After rain or washing the bike I found it useful to brush on some extra oil just to give the oiler a hand, as it were.

Benefits wise I thought it was doing the job as, the chain ran much quieter, seemed much smoother, and for the couple of months I used it, it may have improved my mpg by around 2% i.e. from 46mpg to 47mpg but that could have been down to warmer weather, etc...

Would I buy one again? Yes - especially as the Scottoiler MK7 has been replaced by the 'V' series oiler @ £84.50 (and I can see no difference).

Do I prefer the Mk7 Scottoiler? Yes - because I'm lazy and forgetful, and only have to fill it up weekly and don't have to remember to turn it off.

I do think the Tutoro is slightly better than the competition though as is more economically priced, and if you remember to turn it on, it just gets on with it, unlike the others that you have to squeeze before setting off. As my commute is 40 miles each way I doubt a squeeze in wet weather would be any better than brushing oil on at the start of the day.

Hope this helps
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[tommybhoy]

Thank you very much for your reply.....
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[Villers]

Ive had the scottoilers on 2 of my bikes. Ive found them so far to be messy and unreliable. Note that Ive never bought one myself, just inherited it with the bike. For me Id rather be in charge of how the chain is lubed, and I couldnt give a shit if it gets me an extra 2k out of a chain by using one. My experience has shown me that the scottoiler is not only untrustworthy but it has poor self discipline and low life goals. The one on my busa worked fine for a bit and it came with a payload full of oil. All was well for about a month then one morning I came to the bike to find it had pissed the oil all over the garage floor. Why would I want something that could do that hovering next to my back tyre?
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[MarJay]

[alone]

Sorry to revive an old thread, however, it is relavent:

I recently bought the TUTORO - and it was working just fine, until I forgot about it, and it came loose and almost fell off (doesn't like the shaking at 150mph apparently). I've re-fixed it, but have had to shorten the pipe so it now just drips onto the top of the chain along the upper run.

Since re-locating I've found the flat sides of the chain aren't getting oiled at all. The rest of the chain is nicely oiled up though. Is this something I should rectify? I'm using old 10/40 from my last oil change.

I do have the twin feed end, but am yet to find a suitable way to fit it to my Sprint.
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