HID kits

[salty21]

been looking around ebay for HID kits and am slightly confused as to why they appear to be bike specific? surely a h7 bulb is a h7 bulb and there should be only one type of hid kit for it

on the cbr i have 2 headlight's so would prefer a kit that does 2 bulbs, which the car kits seem to, so would any h7 kit do?
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[G]

Bike specific ones may be waterproof when car ones aren't?
Or they may just be using it as angle to sell the same ones .

I'm fairly pleased with the set of H4 ones I got from ebay - where the cheapest I could find delivered with a UK seller.

Providing you've got somewhere dry to put the ballast etc, I reckon any H7 at all should do - though I think most of the car ones were waterproof anyway.

[Bikeless]

G,what H4 one did you get as i've been getting confused with these kits as some only have HID on low beam,some extend into high beam and others have HID for high and low.

[The Tot]

Depends on what model you have. Most H4's that are Hi/Lo Bixenon use a solonoid that extends and retracts the bulb to get the appropriate beams, although some Bi xenons actually have a HID low beam and a standard high beam.

As with all things HID, make sure you get the beam alignment correct!

Salty, did you check my HID's in show and tell - G also got his from the same supplier.

Bike specific HID's might mean that the ballasts are smaller; looms should be made waterproof anyway - what's there to stop rain seeping through the bonnet?

In answer to your question - any HID kit would do, but I'd rather have a single HID low beam since it's what you'll be using most of the time. You get enough range with the low beam that you won't need a high beam.
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[Bikeless]

Yeah,the solenoid ones are the ones i've been looking at but still haven't made my mind up yet.

[salty21]

[MarkJ]

Slim ballasts are handy, especially if you have to put them under the tank like I did. If I could chose my colour again I'd go for a 4300K kit rather than 6000K, I don't like the blue tinge for night riding.

A note to anyone getting H4 HID bulbs. If you want Hi and Lo in one bulb make sure you get the solenoid operated ones and NOT ones with a filament bulb fo Hi Beam - the high beam bulb is about as powerful as sidelight bulbs :/

Also, a question to those who use H4 HID bulbs - what is your beam pattern like? Mine doesn't have a straight line cut off, and looks like a jaggedy version of a high beam, a bit like this:

https://faqlight.carpassion.info/images/2002-bmw-e46-beam-pattern-high.jpg

[The Tot]

Yeah, the H4 beam on my ZX6R kinda leaked... which is why HID's aren't techically legal because of the light spread pattern.

That said, 4300k is a good temperature to have since it provides the most amount of white light and greatest intensity. 6000K was OK, 8000K is too blue.

I've got a sample of my H7's here

https://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2227/10/100/500990711/n500990711_2058888_3268.jpg

https://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2227/10/100/500990711/n500990711_2058891_4034.jpg

https://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2227/10/100/500990711/n500990711_2058890_3783.jpg
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I went for the 4300k ones for most light and least blueness - which I have ethical issues with.

Mine actually has a pretty flat cut-off. It depends on the reflector behind and thus some designed for non-HID bulbs don't produce decent beam patterns, but HID bulbs that come as stock are still legal.

I'll try and get a pic, but if anything it actually seems a more defined cut-off than the standard bulb!

My solenoid H4 is mounted in a stock cheapish set of aftemarket 'streetfighter' style lights (they were the ones I bodged into the KTM fairing before).

I've actually kept a standard bulb on one side as I wanted to make sure it all worked ok first and was a bit short on space. Might stick another one in when I make a box to hold the wiring at the front.
Sometimes the HID on, but my batteries a little knackered, so flicking it off and on when the bikes actually running kicks it back into life (I drained the battery while installing/testing it and got really confused thinking I'd broken it, but it's just it doesn't do anything below a certain amount of power.)

[MarkJ]

I did that Also, I have the dual streetfighter headlights, both H4 bulbs and to get both of them to come on together I have to turn them on whilst giving the bike some revs

[Jamrock]

Was going to created a new thread about this but since one is already here. Anyone got any advise on what kit to buy for a NSR125? Any links would be greeted with muchos karma

[The Tot]

Okay,

as requested, here are my 6000K HID H4 bixenons - on low beam.

As G rightly said, it's the design of the reflector that determines the beam

https://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v191/10/100/500990711/n500990711_606530_450.jpg

https://photos-d.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v191/10/100/500990711/n500990711_606531_707.jpg

https://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v191/10/100/500990711/n500990711_606532_921.jpg
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[MarkJ]

Agreed with the reflectors - I'm going to try and get hold of some dipped projector headlights, probably from a scrap yard, and use them. Apparently they give the correct cut off with HID bulbs.

[MarkJ]

G they're the same as mine! I have the stainless ones. To be fair I think the problems with my beam pattern are also due to the poor casper shield - it's just made out of chrome plated plastic and is screwed to the base of the bulb. Also probably doesn't help that there's a bulb the size of a sidelight bulb (my Hi beam bulb) to the right of the HID bulb - that can't be helping the leaking light. I might try taking the Hi beam bulbs off the base and try to wire one side as dipped and one as high beam

[G]

These are the ones I got by the way:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=370150857157

This is a not-too-far-off image of the bulb:
https://my.frooition.com/080612/images/H4-3-HID-bulbs.jpg

I suspect in your case the image maybe the dodgy 'bulb' design rather than the reflector.

[MarkJ]

Yeah, your shield looks miles better than mine - this is what I have:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bi-Xenon-HID-Conversion-H4-Hi-Low-6000K-Slim-Ballast-UK_W0QQitemZ270283370101QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item270283370101&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting

https://i20.ebayimg.com/08/i/001/11/9a/ecf3_1.JPG

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[G]

This is my beam pattern, click for bigger:
https://gees.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p805474249-3.jpg
Especially in the picture (less obvious to naked eye) you can see a fair bit of light to the left, but in front the beam pattern is pretty good and very consistent.
Haven't had anyone flashing me, etc, so guessing they're not too bad.