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lllN30lll
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 19 Feb 2009    Post subject: Piece of mind for £20 Reply with quote

was going to get a separate back protector, but browsing eBay I found this replacement armour for your leathers.

little did I know that when taking the original "armour" out, that it isn't armour at all, it's piddly little piece of foam which just seems for demonstration purposes rather than to protect you.

comes with back, shoulder, and elbow, and made by the well know Knox people.

these will replace any stock stuff in your leathers, mine was an RSV jacket and the "armour" was replaceable by undoing the little velcro pockets inside.

If you want them then they're here.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190282515855

SO glad I got mine!!

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 19 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly disappointed you're not selling a part of your brain Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 19 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would you want part of my brain Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:46 - 19 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A set exactly the same as that came in my Weise Jacket, it seems decent quality stuff.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the carbon king is buying plastic for himself? Shocked Wink
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tis good stuff the Knox. I used the exact same protector when I superman'd down the road then landed on my back half on half off the curb. Only down side would be it doesnt cover your tail bone and OMG that hurts when you bruise it. You're arse goes numb for ages when your stuck in bed.

I now where one from hg which as a foamy bit to over your tail bone and its attached to me not in my jacket. I have another one of the knox in the wardrobe if anyone wants it. Tis new and not used (bought it to replace the other one then bought the hg one)

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PostPosted: 00:28 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as in my REV'IT jacket, sturdy stuff and well worth it for that price!
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like CE body armour to me. Most body armour is nothing more than a bit of foam anyway.

The stuff you just bought is just a fancy looking bit of foam. The plastic on the outside is to stop the foam being damaged, it will do exactly squat in terms of absorbing the energy from an impact.

Same way as a motorbike helmet is just a glorified bit of expanded polystyrene. They harp on about the shell materials but that is just there to hold the polystyrene in place.

I have it on good authority that a Marks and Spencer cheese sandwich absorbs sufficient impact energy to pass the requirements of the CE body armour standard.
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PostPosted: 05:33 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:


I have it on good authority that a Marks and Spencer cheese sandwich absorbs sufficient impact energy to pass the requirements of the CE body armour standard.


Will Gregg's or Aldi ones do, cos I can't afford M&S ones?

And will the Gregg's ones still give you heartburn even tho you didn't eat them?

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PostPosted: 17:17 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThoughtControl wrote:

Will Gregg's or Aldi ones do, cos I can't afford M&S ones?

And will the Gregg's ones still give you heartburn even tho you didn't eat them?

Smile


As far as I am aware, only Marks and Spencer ones were submitted to the test because that's what the dianese unnamed technichian in question had in his lunchbox.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you do that crossing out thing?
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
How do you do that crossing out thing?


Code:
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes ah yes ... thank you xx Mr. Green xx
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I have it on good authority that a Marks and Spencer cheese sandwich absorbs sufficient impact energy to pass the requirements of the CE body armour standard.


Sigged Laughing

And stink, the exterior shells on helmets need to be there to some extent don't they, polystyrene would be demolished in split seconds in a slide down the road?
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

quacker_boy wrote:


And stink, the exterior shells on helmets need to be there to some extent don't they, polystyrene would be demolished in split seconds in a slide down the road?


Or on an impact with a sharp object. Although I expect the shell would too to be fair.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

quacker_boy wrote:

And stink, the exterior shells on helmets need to be there to some extent don't they, polystyrene would be demolished in split seconds in a slide down the road?


Yeah, but my point was that the shell is there mostly to protect the polystyrene, not your head.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

But if the shell doesn't last the polystyrene wont last and the whole operation is pointless.

I had the same thing N30, just got my dad to bring up the back protector from my old jacket, was a right pig trying to get it in but still feels better than the flimsy foam that was in there before.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rubbish polystyrene or not , they still act as an excellent barrier between you and the road.

In that my 105mph face down slide would have been terribly messy had I not had a helmet on,
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a particularly gory picture in various places (similar in nature to, say, rotten dot com, if that place is still around ? ) of a face, or rather, half a face, of an allegedly Aussie guy who came off wearing an open face helmet. Got no jaw basically, lots of claret, and you can see his teeth here and there, but not much of a jaw left. Made me much more interested in wearing of a full face helmet. It always amazes me that he appears to be still alive.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 20 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duh.
Thought I qwas still in t'otherr thread.
sorry Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 02:28 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else took the original back ''foam'' out of their leathers if they have a back protector?

Makes a big difference if one has over-eaten during winter and neglected the exercise Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:

I have it on good authority that a Marks and Spencer cheese sandwich absorbs sufficient impact energy to pass the requirements of the CE body armour standard.


Is that the 2 day or 4 day matured variety? Thinking
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont see how protective foam or plastic would be..
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack_zxr400 wrote:
i dont see how protective foam or plastic would be..


Two schools of thought on this that , if you were not protected as well you would ride more sensibly....but again you cannot account for all circumstances and things happen and although riding carefully can mitigate plenty they can't mitigate them all, ie being hit and run a couple years ago now , ironically if I had gunned the gas I'd have not been hit, and in Spain where a cop swiped me and pushed me into a gravel trap.

But then I have some anedotal evidence my knees , I came off and fell on my left knee unprotected it bruised badly and hurt quite badly for a while on the coldest of days it aches a bit.

I had an almost identical off but on my right knee which had a CE protector on it this knee was slightly red but and hurt slightly and no longer hurts at all and is fine.

Same again with my fast face down slide the first thing that went down was my shoulder the dainese suit used combined hard outer shell and soft inner shell protectors I took the protector out and it had a crack across it and it had worked in absorbing some of the initial shock so that there wasn't enough energy passing through to break my shoulder.



Although the pragmatic better to have it than not arguement is used by Man made climate change supporter , totalitarian law makers, insurance sales men , ABS manufacturers and 'advanced' helmet tech manufacturers. I'm semi swayed by it a bit , and its not as if its cost me any extra anyway bar maybe the forcefield S2 as the jackets and leathers have always had them in when I bought them anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

EN 1621-2 (level 2) stuff is best in terms of armour inserts Smile

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/SUPER_SHIELD_CE_Back_Protectors?sc=20&category=171
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