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Mord
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: spark plug life - 2T bikes Reply with quote

How often do you change your spark plugs?

I just changed one in my RS125 after 1600 miles and there is a HUGE improvement. The bike runs smoothly and quicker than ever really (tested on the same road as always).

Maybe because the old one looks like this.. Laughing
https://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg19/Mordoklej/HPIM4873.jpg

I'm going to change spark plugs more often.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could use that plug again. Just needs a clean.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
You could use that plug again. Just needs a clean.


Yeah.. I'll use it next time. I need time to clean it Wink
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure the gaps right as well!
but depends on how your bikes running as to when they need to be changed, with my ill set up over fueling 50, although it sounded nice and was reasonably fast in terms of 50's, used to be every month or so itd need a new one Laughing

But with a standard bike with the jetting standard etc, i would hope for 6 months or more?
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
Make sure the gaps right as well!
but depends on how your bikes running as to when they need to be changed, with my ill set up over fueling 50, although it sounded nice and was reasonably fast in terms of 50's, used to be every month or so itd need a new one Laughing

But with a standard bike with the jetting standard etc, i would hope for 6 months or more?


You can't really put it in terms of time, it has to be in terms of mileage. My TZR plugs have lasted over 11 years, but the engine has only been run for about 5 minutes during that time Laughing

I never removed the spark plug from my scooter and did 4,000km. I've no idea how long it had been in there. If it ain't broken, don't fix it Wink
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 21 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Wouldn't expect it to be that bad after only 1600 miles. Maybe if you do a hell of a lot of low speed work. Is the bike restricted? Which plug have you got fitted?

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PostPosted: 00:38 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was BR8ES in restricted bike.. All 1600 miles in winter time which means choke a bit, warming up for a while (10 minutes or so in low revs), then riding like a granny (for another 10 lol).. then revving it a bit once it's warm enough. And I must add that first 600 miles the bike was in break-in period so I didn't rev it more than 6k.

I will see how it will be going now.. The weather is better now and no more breaking-in Smile

I'm surprised that with that plug the bike never failed to start.. it had the right to do so Wink

Less seriously.. On my favourite private road when I basically ride as fast as the bike can (which is obviously not fast Laughing) I remember just after run in period the bike was doing 83-85mph in one place (slightly down the hill in one place - sort of point of measurement of my bike condition lol).. Lately it hardly was reaching damn 80mph and acceleration was not so good so I was wondering why. Once I changed the plug on the same day I got 86mph there (never been that fast before lol).. WOOHOO Laughing Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and by the way..

Are Iridium plugs better than standard BR8ES?

Manual says I can use BR10EG plugs in FP RS125. Can I use them in restricted bike too? I was reading about plugs and cooler ones seem to be safer for the engine Razz
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No point using an iridium plug in a 2 stroke. As the plug you have just removed from your bike proves, it won't last long but costs 4 times as much.

You're best just fitting the recommended plug. If it was going to do any damage to the engine, Aprilia wouldn't have fitted it.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I 'd put a slightly hotter plug in that to see if it helps with the fouling. Try a 7 next time rather than a 8.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mordoklej wrote:
Manual says I can use BR10EG plugs in FP RS125. Can I use them in restricted bike too? I was reading about plugs and cooler ones seem to be safer for the engine Razz


The higher the number with NGK plugs then the colder the plug. However a colder plug will foul up more easily at low revs.

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PostPosted: 20:39 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you let your bike idle for a while then will get the fouling like that.

I am sure it wouldn't take long to clean, all you'd need is a wire brush.
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:
all you'd need is a wire brush.


No longer recommended, as it leaves traces of wire on the insulation allowing it to short out.

Don't leave the bike just idling to warm up for ages. Personally I start up and ride off immediatly (or as near as possible), just keep the revs down until warmed up.

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't realise that... so what is recommended?
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds55 wrote:
Didn't realise that... so what is recommended?


Just lob a new one in.

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PostPosted: 21:26 - 22 Feb 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've saved broken spark plugs with my Redex spark plug wire brush.
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