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Were meant to pay in the car parks in cornwall but we dont. I cant see why we have to pay we dont take much room up. They just wont the money
Just argue that the wind blew it away or it got nicked. ____________________ Bikes i've owned: mobylette ----- Ts 50er ------ GS 400e ------ CB250n superdream ------r6 ------ bandit 400 ----- 2005 kx 125
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have to be quite a long chain to fit through that and still go through a point on your bike  ____________________ Current - Fazer 600
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Erm , the government is utterly bankrupt they need to do this to get money out of you, me I just park a bit farther away out of town and walk in if they do things like that OR completely avoid that town all together.
Bury tickets bikes parked anywhere and has nowhere specifically to park bikes, so I just don't go to Bury at all and go to Bolton where parking is free. If Bolton decide to do it I will avoid bolton.
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about a year ago the car park i used everyday decided to remove the motorbike bay and put ticket machines in its place.
So i rang up the local council to say now were can i safely park my motorbike & will it cost me?
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1.you may use a car space if you pay for a ticket to use it.
2.Parking is free for motorbikes as long as its not double yellow lines etc.
So i still assumed until today that you can park for free unless its a car space.  ____________________ Piaggo liberty 125 SOLD - CBR 125 - SOLD Aprilia RS 125 - SOLD CBR 400 NC29 - SOLD ZX6R currently own https://bikepics.com/members/Graprilia/ |
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These local authorities are really staring to take the piss, and to my mind proves that they don't take the whole "reduce congestion, reduce emmissions" thing seriously.
I could understand if they still ran the local public transport (i.e. buses) that they might have a motive, but this just smacks of stupidity.
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| Quote: | These local authorities are really staring to take the piss, and to my mind proves that they don't take the whole "reduce congestion, reduce emmissions" thing seriously. |
ou could argue that a bike emits more emisions and is less green than your average car.
these are just some figures plucked out of thin air and relate to an averagely large bike 600cc+.
MPG on a reasonably big bike, 40-45 MPG, any deisel car easily 45+, most newish petrol cars mid engine size, about 1.8-2ltr will do 35+easily.
servicing, most bikes 4k miles, my car is on variable servicing and is working out at every 16K, about 4 ltrs of oil into most engines per change.
tyres, Bike - 4K miles rears 8k miles front, car 15k miles plus for the driving wheels lots more for the rears.
then when you add in the fact that most bikes can only carry 2 people max, a car can easily carry 4 and at a push 5.
so compared to a car, a bike uses less petrol but more tyres and oil to carry less people so more of the earths resources and less green than a modern car.
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Some interesting points, my bike returns 48mpg at 90mph on the motorway (find me a car that'll do 0-60 in 3 secs that can do that), if I ride at 70mph or pootle around town I'll get 50mpg (find me a petrol car on a proven combined cycle that can do that).
None of my journeys involve sitting in heavy traffic burning fuel without moving very far for 10-20 mins at a time (I filter past literally hundreds that are).
My commute involves dropping my daughter off at school first, 90+% of the cars on the road are single occupancy.
If I used a car on my commute or shopping in town my carbon footprint would be 2-3 times larger.
Just a thought
EDIT: forgot the servicing: front tyres 11,000 miles, rear tyres 8,000 miles full set = £200 (full set for my wife's car £370 for budget brand Barums, Michelin £100+ each)
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I only chucked that post in a stop and think about what you are saying type post, I honestly dont think that biking as any more green than driving an economical car.
For example a few weeks ago we had a hire car in work, it was an deisel astra sporty model 150 BHP apparently, 4 blokes traveled across britain in it over a couple of days and when we got back to Bristol I did the maths and it worked out to return 53MPG and it was getting pretty thrashed.
I honestly dont believe a v strom will do 0-60 in 3 secs either, I think my Tuono would be strugling to do that  |
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| tafflade wrote: | MPG on a reasonably big bike, 40-45 MPG, any deisel car easily 45+, most newish petrol cars mid engine size, about 1.8-2ltr will do 35+easily. |
2008 ER-6F 65-70mpg and about 130mph top speed.
| tafflade wrote: | servicing, most bikes 4k miles, my car is on variable servicing and is working out at every 16K, about 4 ltrs of oil into most engines per change. |
2008 ER-6F oil changes every 7500mls and just under 2 litres.
| tafflade wrote: | tyres, Bike - 4K miles rears 8k miles front, car 15k miles plus for the driving wheels lots more for the rears. |
Bet I get more than your quoted mileage on my bikes.
| tafflade wrote: | then when you add in the fact that most bikes can only carry 2 people max, a car can easily carry 4 and at a push 5. |
When was the last time you saw a commuter car with 4 people in it?
| tafflade wrote: | so compared to a car, a bike uses less petrol but more tyres and oil to carry less people so more of the earths resources and less green than a modern car. |
It has the potential, maybe but as someone else said compare like with like and the picture is a lot different.
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I suspect these bike parking posts are down to some car drivers moaning about having to pay when bikes don't
Talking about parking spaces for bikes, I was told a few years back by a traffic warden that as long as it's not causing an obstruction to pedestrians, you can park on the pavement. I do this regularly when using the bank and have never got done - touch wood. ____________________ Space Is Deep |
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They do this at Helmsley as well
the council know its a hot spot for bikers so they changed their ticket machines, bikers now get to press a magic button that prints 2 tickets so if the one for the bike gets nicked you still have proof ____________________ A scientist crossed a skunk with an owl. He's got a bird that smells but doesn't give a hoot  |
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| Quote: | When was the last time you saw a commuter car with 4 people in it? |
every day on the motorway, its not uncommon at all. |
It may not be uncommon, but it's probably still a minority, compared to the number of sole occupant cars on the road. I travel 60 miles a day for work. I used to take my CG125 when I had it, getting over 100mpg (even the Hornet I take now returns a decent amount), but if it's cold/wet (nearly always) I'll take my less-economical-more-polluting BMW 328, which struggles to get 30mpg. At that time in the morning when I'm going to work, it's pretty much all commuters, 1 per car (occasionally 2, but very rarely any more). And they're not all eco-friendly superminis, a huge amount of them are big engined Mercs, BMW's and Audis, not to mention 4x4's. ____________________ Current bike - 2006 ZX6R |
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Well it said in bold letters, place ticket in here and there was a parking attendant nearby (which I spoke to) so couldn't really get out of it. Don't wanna get caught atm  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 180 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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