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PostPosted: 12:25 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Dealer used - took kit or not tool kit, that is the question Reply with quote

Hello – would be grateful for thoughts from some of the experienced bike sages here. I’ve just bought a used 2005 CBR 1000rr from a dealer – Dobles Honda – and only after taking delivery have found that there’s no tool kit supplied. All other documentation is there / pristine, so seems odd. Checked with them and they say that used bikes are often without the ‘kit. Is this correct, or a fob off? Otherwise they’ve been fantastic with the sale, so don’t want to sour it over this, but would be grateful for experience on the forum.



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PostPosted: 12:30 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Dealer used - took kit or not tool kit, that is the ques Reply with quote

It's used, chances are the previous owner still has it.

If it bothers you make it a point on your next sale, but for the value of the bike and the value of a tool kit why get upset over it.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one of my bikes still had its original tool kit, they aren't expensive to buy or you could just knock your own kit together. I doubt the dealer would hold onto it what use would it be to them?
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

not upset as such, just would rather have the kit than not, so wonder if worth pushing to get another kit they may have lying around.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing you really want out of the kit is the spark plug spanner anyway , the rest are not very useful, and maybe the C spanner to adjust your chain if your bike needs one.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask the dealer if he can ask the guy (or gal) who they bought the bike from if they still have the toolkit. For the cost of a phone call, may save you a lot of hassle sourcing your own kit. The original seller probably forgot he still has it and won't need it now.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldnt worry.

But I agree, you raised the issue and Doble's had a chance to supply a good bit of customer service and chose not too.

I fucking hate Dobles - the robbing gits. I make a point of swearing everytime I ride past.

Er, yeah, er, dont worry about the tool kit.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I traded my K5 GSXR 1000 last September, for a Tuono, I still have the gixer tool kit in my shed. Come to think of it I still have a key and Meta alarm fob for my K4 gixer as well.

I did ask the dealer if they wanted me to post them the K4 key soon after I traded it, they really weren't bothered.
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies – most helpful. Sounds like the best option would be to wait to see what they offer back and if no toolkit forthcoming ask for details of former owner to ask if they still have it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always take the toolkit out of my bikes to save weight. What is the point in having it anyway? The tools are made of cheese and you won't be able to fix many things by the side of the road anyway.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

strag wrote:
I traded my K5 GSXR 1000 last September, for a Tuono, I still have the gixer tool kit in my shed. Come to think of it I still have a key and Meta alarm fob for my K4 gixer as well.

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Same here, i have three Gixxer toolkits left over from selling my bikes!! They come in quite handy as the ducati toolkit consists of an allen key and a screwdriver
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would like to have a tool kit. I have fixed bikes at the side of the road using the cheap and nasty tool kits (eg, the YSR last year). Nice to be able to adjust a chain while out if needs be. Also if you come across someone who has run out of petrol then you can whip the tank off and drain some fuel into it to get them going.

That said I have a fair number of tools in the car should I need to sort problems out (specifically enough tools to change a wheel bearing on the bike trailer).

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PostPosted: 14:37 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think most people take the toolkit out and use the space for disc lock or whatever, I have.

While I used to carry a set of tools religiously on my bikes, I only do if Iam going abroard now, and thats only fuses, an adjustable, multi tipped screwdriver and a puncture repair outfit.

In UK I use my breakdown cover Embarassed
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that's really particularly useful in the tool kit is a C-Spanner to adjust the shock preload, and that's something you're only likely to change once or twice anyway.
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PostPosted: 18:53 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only carry my aa card Embarassed , mainly because if i took my bike apart i'd make it worse!
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know they are only fickle tools but from a buyer perspective I know its nice to buy a second hand bike thats a few years old and still has both its keys, all its documents, service history and an original toolkit. All my bikes have come with the toolkit still there and I would look if buying a bike second hand and may even consider factoring it into my offer, it says something about the previous owner if they have at least been arsed to keep it all together! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 27 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Futura came with it's toolkit and with good reason as it was actually pretty important for it, the SP1 didn't come with one though.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I always take the toolkit out of my bikes to save weight. .


Do you have a good dump as well Laughing

It's pretty rare to find a 2nd hand bike with a tool kit.... I'm sure its the theiving dealers who do it, then sell them on ebay at inflated prices.

Only bits of any use are the spark plug bit and the shock adjuster... But if you bike has twin shocks, thats usually the end of the screw driver Rolling Eyes

Far more use than the tool kit is roadside assistance and recovery. Unless you have something like a MZ or early brit bike, then hammer, pliers and string surfive to get you going again Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one's that come with your bike are absolute crap.

I honestly wouldn't worry about it.

Buy the spanners, you need and put them under the seat.


I've found a linkman folding knife a swiss army knife and an adjustable wrench and a couple of alan keys is all that I ever need when i'm out on the bike.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a used bike so it is unrealistic to expect it to be supplied with everything that it left the factory with, unless you specifically bought the bike and checked everything was present before you put your money down.

My guess is that you didn't even think about the toolkit until you had the bike and then realised it was missing. You can't really blame the dealer in my opinion. If you are that bothered, source one off ebay or from a breakers. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 28 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
The one's that come with your bike are absolute crap.


They suit the purpose for which they were made. They've got me out of trouble a few times!!!
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