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PostPosted: 21:58 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: MOT questions. Reply with quote

I have my MOT coming up, on my birthday of all days! So anyway i could do with some help to save it from ruining my birthday and failing Laughing

#1 Since i came off in the ice ive only had one mirror (RH) the other one still has the stalk bit just no actual mirror, the remaining mirror is missing a bit of the plastic surround where my friend trod on it while i had the fairing off to repair other crash damage, helpful of him aye! The glass on the remaining mirror is 100% fine and there isnt that much plastic missing.

Is it likely to fail on these two points?

#2 At some point in the past 6 months a "slash" for want of a better word, has appeared on my rear tyre, it is mayby 3 inches across but is not deep enough to be dangerous, the examiner is unlikely to notice it but just incase, is it likely to fail on that?

#3 A very small corner on both sides of my fairing near the mirrors have snapped off, they are not sharp. Is it likely to fail on this?

I cant think of any more at the moment, i have looked online and from what i can determin #2 is the only one im likely to fail on however id like a second opinion please.

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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) Fail, remove it altogether.

2) Fail, they look for things like that, replace it.

3) As long as there are no sharp edges it will pass, if there is cover it with gaffa tape.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
1) Fail, remove it altogether.

2) Fail, they look for things like that, replace it.

3) As long as there are no sharp edges it will pass, if there is cover it with gaffa tape.


With that in mind, ill remove the mirror bracket bit and put tape over the corners to be safe, the tyre will have to stay unfortunatly as i literaly havent got the money.

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PostPosted: 22:59 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:

With that in mind, ill remove the mirror bracket bit and put tape over the corners to be safe, the tyre will have to stay unfortunatly as i literaly havent got the money.

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Which is why you wheel it into the MOT centre YOURSELF and cleverly move it so that the gash in the tyre is not visible from the position the MOT inspector will look at it. Under a hugger is good , or bottom of the wheel is also good. Though you do risk the chance that they will spot this on the brake test as the wheels go round.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 29 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was to fail on the tyre would i still be legaly allowed to ride it home? I know normaly i would be allowed but im sure there is some sort of clause about major safety issues, would the tyre count as that if the tester was to fail it? Another part of me says thats just for brakes so im probably worrying about nothing as per usual.

Oh and thanks for the speedy replys so far Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Karma


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PostPosted: 00:12 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. just take the mirrors off, i don't have mirrors on the xr and no problems at mot.

2. if the slash is bad and you are going to replace the tyre anyway you could always sand it down a bit to make it not as bad, but dont blame me if your tyre explodes.

3. put some gaffa tape on it. I once took a scooter for a mot with the plastics completely held on with gaffa tape, there wasn't a single screw in them and it passed ok.
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with taking the mirrors off is that the bottom of the mirror is what holds the fairing on, i can remove as far as that however its still going to be obvious that there was a mirror there.

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PostPosted: 09:10 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the MOT tester does his job properly, he will rotate the wheel by hand and check out the complete tyre for imperfections and condition. So no point in trying to hide it.
If he considers the tyre condition to be really dangerous then he can insist that he will not release the bike back to you unless you make suitable arrangements for transportation, i.e. bring a trailer to transport it on, or convince him that you will push it all the way to the tyre shop. Either way, you blag your way to getting your bike back, but he is then covered. If he let you ride it away with a serious defect on the tyre, he could be prosecuted and lose his MOT tester status if you had a blowout that caused a serious accident.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is a slash on the tyre not deep enough to be dangerous? How do you know?

Get it replaced, for your own sake apart from anything else.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
The problem with taking the mirrors off is that the bottom of the mirror is what holds the fairing on, i can remove as far as that however its still going to be obvious that there was a mirror there.


Mirrors are not a legal requirement so you can take them off it you want. The only issue with having the remains of the mirror there is that there is something sharp that could easily give someone a serious injury in a minor collision. You can possibly take the stalk off and just leave the base in place to hold the fairing.

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PostPosted: 23:45 - 30 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBassJunky wrote:
How is a slash on the tyre not deep enough to be dangerous? How do you know?

Get it replaced, for your own sake apart from anything else.


Seriously if i had the money i would, you really think i feel confident riding on a tyre with a slash on it!?

Today i spent a few hours with my friend tidying the bike up, it now has two mirrors and no rough edges at all on the fairing, I fixed the throttle which has been a little iffy for the past week, topped the oil up and tightened the chain, its now in as good a condition as ill be able to get it for the MOT, if it fails then it fails, not much i can do.

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PostPosted: 11:51 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAIL! what a way to ruin a birthday! ah well.

Worlds worst and best timing in a way, it failed because the back brake hose split while he was testing the brake, bad timing but better than it splitting while im riding!

Ill get that changed tommoro and get it re-tested on monday, thanks everyone.

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PostPosted: 12:19 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
FAIL! what a way to ruin a birthday! ah well.

Worlds worst and best timing in a way, it failed because the back brake hose split while he was testing the brake, bad timing but better than it splitting while im riding!

Ill get that changed tommoro and get it re-tested on monday, thanks everyone.

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No issues with the tyre?
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, i watched him check it all the way around and he didnt even notice it, i rode alot of high speed miles on thursday, id say that helped to wear the tyre down and make the slash less noticable.

Like i said before, slash makes it sound worse than it is anyway.

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PostPosted: 15:52 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about the mirror, if you read the online MOT testers guide it states mirrors reqd from 1978, its also a good point of reference for any other issues. Checked the requirements for brake lights before I took my velosolex for its test and due to its top speed of 18mph found its not reqd. MOT man had to check his manual to confirm when I took it.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mirrors are not part of the test. Perhaps they are a testable item fro 1978-onwards bikes, but if there's no mirror there to test - it can't fail.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont want to hijack this thread but it saves starting a new MOT question for me Thumbs Up
My indicators are just buggered... Wont take LEDs (yes tried everything)
So Ive got none on the back but 2 on the front (none working) Im not going to bother trying to fix them right now because I get frustrated lol
But if I remove the front ones off and put some duck tape over the indicator switch to show im not using them will it still pass?
Or will I need to removed the switch altogether??
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also on the mirror front if you have one - or one is cracked just remove them. My bandit passed without mirrors Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think if you remove the switch and the lettering indicating indicators then you should be ok? could be wrong though.. I would say the duct tape thing wont work as they dont need tools to get duct tape off..

As far as i know though, like you say, as long as you dont have indicators and dont have a switch for them then it wont fail.

As for the mirrors thing, yep, like Louise one of the mirrors on my Bandit was cracked so I just removed them altogether, passed its MOT last weekend.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Mirrors are not required.

Indicators are required whether there is a switch or not on pretty much any newer bike (exceptions for the daytime MOT dodge).

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:43 - 04 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My xr doesn't have mirrors or indicators. It has a indicator switch fitted that was always there and i have never had any problems. Only once have i had any comment on the mot was due to the rear knobbly. It still passed ok with a full mot.
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