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WildGoose
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: New graphics card question? Reply with quote

Bought an EVGA 9800GTX+ the other day to replace my aging 6800GS, now the box makes mention of the requirements;

"two 6-pin PCI express power connectors or four available hard disk power connectors."

From what I can see the card only has 1 PCI express power connector (same as the 6800 only had 1) so I duly swapped cards and plugged them in the same, and I cant think why 1 card would need two (graphics cards never even used to need dedicated power connectors). So what the fuck is it on about, or is it assuming you will be using SLI or something?

Also a minor thing, the card may have had a sticker on the plastic case that may have said remove before installation, but in all the huffing and puffing trying to shoehorn the fucker into the case I didnt take it off. Is this a major issue?


(when did graphics cards get so fat Confused )
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are power hungry cards hence the two connectors to make them run properly, they need a 450W minimum powers supply.

Make sure the sticker isn't covering a cooling vent otherwise it will overheat.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took it out again (hate those PCI express retainer clips) and peeled the sticker off, it didn't seem to be covering anything, just like a protective sticker for the graphics on the back of the card but its done now.

Double checked the card again and it definately only has one power connector, so no idea what the box is talking about, seems to work well, already played a few games that the 6800 wouldnt entertain for long.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:


Double checked the card again and it definately only has one power connector, so no idea what the box is talking about, seems to work well, already played a few games that the 6800 wouldnt entertain for long.


Should have two. Confused

https://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_radeon_hd_4850_geforce_9800_gtx+/images/08.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

very strange, that looks just like my card, but definately only has 1 connector,

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-259727_15_0.html - the guy at the bottom here seems to think newer variants only have 1 6 pin connector.

The card came with a two molex into one 6 pin power connector, which I didn't use.

Another thing here https://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=92318 some people are saying you need two connectors, others saying some GTX+'s only require 1.

Bit bloody confusing to say the least.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be an updated version with a more efficient design.https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Ne%20nau/ne_nau.gif
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some 9800gtx have 2 6pin, some have 1 6pin. Mine has 1, came with an adaptor to use 2 molex.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SoND/cards.png
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Nvidia cards will either A-Scream if theres no power or B- you will get a pop up when you stress the card in a game saying its lowering the clock speeds due to low power.

Did Nvidia not change the NM size half way through the 9800's life? If you have the smaller manufacturing sized chip it may not need 2 plugs but they used the same package?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the 9800 GTX+ is made using 55nm process, down from 65, or is it 45 down from 55nm something like that. Basically the '+' denoting a different process.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep it's as you all have said, smaller manufacturing process, only 1 PCI-e connector. Happy days.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet.

Seems to be working well enough anyway, thanks for the pointers chaps Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at the 9800GTX+ myself as you can pick one up from aria pc for £91 inc VAT. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 14 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should've checked there then Brick Wall

If I tell you what I paid you will laugh I think.

[EDIT] Possibly scratch that, I bought a so called "superclocked" version, what that means in reality I don't really know, but i'll pretend the necessary anyway Razz
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 15 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

RivaTuner and I could have a superclocked version for no extra charge. Razz

I bet you paid £130 for it?
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 15 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
RivaTuner and I could have a superclocked version for no extra charge. Razz

I bet you paid £130 for it?


Kick a man when hes down eh Laughing

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 15 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
I've been looking at the 9800GTX+ myself as you can pick one up from aria pc for £91 inc VAT. Thumbs Up


Shocked

I paid like £150 or something for mine, last November.

Great card though. Reviews said it was loud when under strain..but its about as loud as a mouse breathing.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 15 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I bet you paid £130 for it?


Something like that. It was affordable *shrug* Razz

Saying that, I paid £150 for my Gainward 6800 GS all those years ago, so its all relative (was using £150 quid as a guideline, bought the best GTX+ I could find). This industry moves so quick, and i've long stopped keep track (cancelled my custom pc subscription).
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