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PostPosted: 19:05 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Kawk zx6r m reg ignition problem Reply with quote

Hey maybe the boffins could help me here? I have a kwak zx6r m reg that has been garaged for 2 years, i put the key in turn it and the nuetral light comes on, but when hitting the starter button i only hear 1 click each time i press it, no turning at all ? would this be the sparks, fuses, battery or something ealse ? ohh the click noise comes from udner the seat somewhere i havent investigated at all as im a mechanical/electrical ludite.

Any advice would be great.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 09 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The click is most likely the starter relay. If its been sat for so long the battery will be flat, worst case scenario it will never come back. Takes a good bit of power to run the starter motor. A new or charged battery is your first step Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 10 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yupp Villers, thanks. I will give that a bash on saturday afternoon Smile
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike Sparks and amzingly holds a charge, the fuel is off, so it will have to be drained before I can really give her a chance. Other than that the only other thing is the guy who had it garaged had a race end can put on it, now would I have to dick around with getting it set up for that ?
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 11 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its just a race can and the bike was running fine beforehand then it should be ok. It may benefit slightly from a set up but not really worth it that much. Get that fuel dumped and see what its like! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 12 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brilliant, i will get the fuel drained tommorow and see what happens.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 17 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drained the tank but didnt do the carbs, I know I probably should have. I thought I would try anyway. Still no joy from start, so I'm asuming I will have to take carbs out, clean them, then try?


Battery was replaced and I can heare her turn over, just no ignition of fuel.

Any suggestions or anyone with any easy tips to drain a carb.

Could it be spark plugs ?

And i will have to take the Tank off Airbox off and then the carbs should be sitting directly below?
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 17 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubt the sparkplugs are the problem, if it's been sat for 2years then the carbs are probably just gummed up, personally i'd just try taking the tank off or propping it up, airbox cover off and spray some easy start (WD40 can work too) into the intakes or just putting a very small amount of petrol down each one and then crank it, it'll either kick into life after a few goes or it won't.

If it doesn't then take the airbox and carbs off and open the floatbowls (underneath) and clean out the main and pilot jets in each one and needle valves and make sure floats aren't sticking, may aswell take diaphragm caps off too and clean the needles on the slides too and check diaphragm condition as they can perish, and spray some carb cleaner through all the passageways to clear out any debris.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 17 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I will give that a bash over the weekend, I have the haynes manual if I become stuck.
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 18 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, I used easy start spray into intakes, the bike kicked over for a brief second then died. So I know the spark plugs are fine, so it must be Fuel problems. The carbs were drained from the allen screws on each one, the right hand 2 had fuel in them the other 2 did not ? I assume the fuels bad and clogged it up, or the fuels not getting to all intakes in the carb?

I must have had bad fuel still left in the tank, as after I drained it, then tried fireing it up, it was almost wanting to kick over.

So my plan of attack is to drain the carbs again, take tank off completley and drain fully. then replace the fuel lines which I have sitting around the garage.

If that fails then i should strip carb down and clean. ( which is the last thing I want to have to do, with limited skills in mechanics)
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 18 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you're making progress mate! I wouldnt want to strip the carbs myself either to be honest as Im not THAT technically minded either. Keep posting and let us know how you're getting on! Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 20 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right carbs stripped and cleaned, there was a good portion of shit in them, I also happened to find a clear little bottle with a thin cylindrical filter inside that was gunked up completley it was dry and it came from the carbs, would that have been the cause ? its cleaned and put back on, also there was another bigger bottle with half red stuff ( maybe the redex I placed in the fuel), half fuel in it which was yellow and obviously off whats is it ? it sat back from the battery. Also there was like a tiny bottle with a blanked end on the airbox filter ?

Hoses replaced and in the right order, tank was drained carbs are clean, I will nip to the petrol staton and bash a couple litres into it and hopefully it will be running by end of night.

Could tha tiny little bottle with the thin cyclindrical filter in it that was dry be the cause ?

Or would it be the larger bottle with which looked like half anf half fluid in it ?

What I think it maybe the larger bottle, as the fuel on the half that fed from tank to bottle then to reserve switch and such was red coloured which would be the redex I placed in the fuel. Yet the half that went from below the bottle to switch/carbs was yellow rancid colour, could it be blocked and not allowing fuel to pass through it ? hence why the rotten fuel was sitting below the blockage? am I making sense?
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 25 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the bike running, fuel pump wasnt doing its job so the fuel was lacking to carbs.

It does not idle very well though and dies out below 1k rpm ?

What should I do with that ?

Dick around with the screws on the carbs ? Throttle adjustment ? or is the carbs maybe still clogged ? The airbox is solid and no leaks or anything.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 25 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My redneck repair mnaul says rev the tits off it for a while and see if that clears it up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 25 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking the same, it had been sitting for 2 years in a garage.

I will spank it during the week, if not add a bit of redex maybe ? Then spank it some more?

I can always fiddle with the carb screws though if needed.
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