Which stove?

[warped one]

So wanting to build up the old camping gear, I am now looking for a decent little stove. After nearly breaking the missus back when she was carrying one of those crappy, burner things that take up all the room in a bag and give of fvck all heat when trying to cook. Think it was a Gelert Camp Bistro or something. So here's what I've looked at upto now, but totally undecided please help.

CampinGaz Party Grill £39.99

https://www.campmania.co.uk/Item-3-15-cat-0-brand-627-CampinGaz_Party_Grill.aspx

Cool but unpractical.

CampinGaz 206 S Stove - £10

https://www.campmania.co.uk/Item-3-15-cat-0-brand-637-CampinGaz_206_S_Stove.aspx

Smal cheap, and fuel readily availible.

CampinGaz Camping Chef - £39.99

https://www.campmania.co.uk/Item-3-15-cat-0-brand-425-CampinGaz_Camping_Chef.aspx

Would be amazing but just a little to big me thinks.

Hexamine Disposable - £3.95

Some thing like this would be pretty good. Not sure of heat out put though.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hexamine-disposable-camping-stove-solid-fuel-cooker-X2_W0QQitemZ150338995053QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_Camping_CookingSupplies_ET?hash=item150338995053&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1688|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A0|293%3A2|294%3A50

Ot the golden oldie, Trangia - £10.49

https://www.mapandcompass.co.uk/Trangia-Spirit-Burner-with-screw-cap-B25-P201240.aspx


Which stove do you swear by, and which would you recomend?

The only requirements are :

Small (obvilously)
Cheap
Give out a shit load of heat
Not complicated (bit dim you see)

Cheers

Warped
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[onfire]

Well i can't say I've used any of the above, but i am currently using the MSR pocket rocket.

https://cascadedesigns.com/msr/stoves/fast-and-light-stoves/pocketrocket/product

Its tiny, weighs nothing and kicks out some crazy amount of heat. Also makes an awesome sound

Used it constantly on a walk for 2 weeks solid with just a pan and a spoon, no issues at all.
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Can't find the same model I have, but I prefer the resealable cartridges rather than the Camping Gaz type that pierces the cannister, like this one :-

https://www.yeomansoutdoors.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=192

Makes packing away that bit easier.
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[Peirre oBollox]

The party grill isn`t small, likewise those A4+ sized flat stoves that come in a case. I have 1 of each stuffed in the back of the garage gathering dust.

your choice of stove really depends on how often & how much use your going to put it to, IMO if money isn`t an issue then an MSR Dragonfly is the one you want, runs on petrol or diesel, so its hardly likely to run out of fuel. so you can use it to keep warm. these are highly rated by the off road adventure riders.

if size/space IS an issue then, take a look at MSR back packer stoves
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[Itchy]

Depends just how far out the back and beyond you are going , a camping gaz type stove will be fine for UK and Europe, anything more beyond needs a petrol stove.

I'm taking with me a Coleman 442 feather stove which is run on panel wipe (which is clean burning) until I run out of the 1.5 litres I am bringing and will use comparatively sooty petrol in it.

BUT you can't cook directly off the flames from a petrol stove, you have to use a pot.
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[Phoenix]

I use a Coleman Sportster 533, similar to Itchy's one but slightly large I think. Runs on lots of things but I use petrol when out on the bike obviously, good for using as a heater when it gets cold aswell as cooking, as said though you cannot cook on the flame or use it in an enclosed area when burning petrol. Paid £38 for mine from Towsure which was cheapest including online sources, but price seems to be £50 now

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

MSR Dragonfly..used it regular for nearly 10yrs. Gas is quiicker and easier to use but my MSR heats faster, loads of heat, is cheap to run, and i can simmer food with it. And it defo burns better than gas at higher altitudes cos you can increase the pressure.
If yer a thicko stick with gas.

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[warped one]

Does anyone know about those Trangia things? The main problem is that with the exhaust angle and height on the GT I cannot put panniers on it. So size really is a matter. Especially with the fact i'm going to Cornwall for a week in the summer, and subsquently can only take a tote bag and a backpack. With everything in it. Please help.

Cheers

Warped
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[Itchy]

The GT650R and CBR600F zorsts look almost the same the GT maybe an inch higher , you can stick paniers on it just shorten the straps, see my tour threads for how to.

You can always make a heat shield to lay on the zorst too a sheet of MDF with some dowel and another sheet of MDF will do nicely (though the bottom piece of MDF will be blackened).
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[warped one]

Not really keen on setting fire to me bike. Also with the panniers right up there is no room ofr my tote bag and tent. Do have a tank bag but due to me been a short arse, I can't use it when extended.

Can you get 12v electric ones that are small. Just thought of this as I have one of those plug things for stuff like a optimate.

Cheers

Warped
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[Itchy]

You probably can but they will suck a HUGE amount of power out of your battery , in that heated grips suck up 55~70 watts, and those aren't exactly roasting.

Heating food up will take more alot more,

Take a coke can meths burner instead? , those take up the space of.... a coke can , and a coke can for fuel + the pan.
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[warped one]

Meh just a thought. And like I said in the OP I aint that bright, well with stuff like this.

Coke can meths burner?

Where, What How?

Cheers

Warped
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I just bought this triangia off ebay a couple of weeks ago:
Link to auction

Used it last week when i went camping and it was perfect
(although i would advise buying a simmer ring for it)
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[warped one]

Care to explain how they work? In detail, always like to know what i'm dealing with. Shame this can't be said about most women lol.

Cheers

Warped
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amnesia - Never in the history of usernames has one been more accurate. Warped indeed. You sir are a fecking oddball.

[Itchy]

[warped one]

Hmmm may have a play with making one of those soon. But i'm still after a proper one.

Cheers

warped
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[Peirre oBollox]

[Pernig]

What I'm worried about as far as these home-made stoves are concerned is what fuels can they be run on. Is it alcohol only, or will petrol burn in them? I'm guessing that burning petrol in one could be a big risk, but I'm mentioning it for practicality's sake.

Is the alcohol easily available? Not too fussed about cooking straight off the flame, the only instance I can think of needing this is for say a well done steak, and I eat mine rare.
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[Clanger]

I have this.... https://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/acatalog/SunnGas_Alpine_Stove.html

it's superb!!!
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[Zenarchy]

[Zenarchy]

[Pernig]

Thanks Zenarchy. Had a go at making Stinkwheel's three minute camping stove and am off to get some meths later to test it out with .
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[Zenarchy]

[stinkwheel]

Of the ones listed for compact, lightweight camping. The Triangia is the one to go for. All the pans and stove pack down inside one another

If you fancy making your own try looking at www.zenstoves.org

The Penny stove is disgustingly efficient, I was using one the other weekend when I went backpacking with my ultra simple one as a backup so i could get two pans on the go at once. NEVER, EVER USE PETROL OR PARAFFIN IN A PRESSURISED ALCOHOL STOVE!*

If you want one that will produce masses of heat under all conditions and boil water really efficiently even in the wind, try one of the coleman dual fuel stoves. I've had one for 15 years and it is still going strong. Runs on unleaded so ideal for motorcycle camping.

I have never seen someone sucessfully get water up to a rolling boil on a gaz stove. In fact, short of ones you fit to a proper butane/propane cylinder, most of them are pretty crap.

The containers are also important. rectangular British army mess tins are pretty crap. You need something with a lid on to get water boiling properly. I recommend stainless steel 2-cup teapots like you get in motorway service stations. You can put them on an open fire and a standard tin of beans fits inside it neatly.

Circular, Czech army mess tins are very good. They nest inside one another and act as lids. The alloy is also thick enough to hold some heat.

*This is because once lit, it becomes a self-sustaining and self-multiplying process as they have no control valve. You land up with a towering inferno that accelerates in height until the fuel is used up.
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[njd27]

I used to borrow a mates Coleman Sportster 533 which runs on unleaded (until I ran it over with the car). They are great, you get a huge amount of heat, the only thing that's really this good is a paraffin stove, like this:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270383969118

Optimus stoves are brilliant, but they don't make them any more

Another mate just bought one of these:

https://www.actionoutdoors.co.uk/shop/primus-omnifuel-p-431.html

which will run on just about anything, it has changeable jets and can do LP gas, aviation fuel, unleaded, diesel, paraffin. But it's 125 quid so probably a bit specialist.

Currently I'm using a GoSystem Thermotech stove which is tiny but a bit weedy:

https://www.aktive8.com/p/GoSystem/Camping-Stoves/Thermo-Tech/GS2107.html