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Mr Hammers
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Broke brake Reply with quote

DON'T forget the disclock....DON'T forget the disclock...DON'T forg......oops..forgot the disclock....

https://www.planetash.net/bcf/brokenbrake.jpg


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Can't believe I did it *again*. Second time now, but this time I managed to snap the caliper arm at the back and the end of the speedo cable. Going to try and see if I can find just the bit that broke, but I suspect I'm going to have to buy a whole new caliper. Rolling Eyes

Someone, please, just... just shoot me...
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a bit of tubing.

Put it over your ignition key when you put your disc lock on, then you can't forget. When it's not over your ignition key, put it over your disc lock key so it doesn't scratch your top yoke.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the same thing the other day.

Gladly the disclock was on the rear and the caliper was saved because the disclock got jammed between the swingarm.

The worst part was the lock had bent so it wouldn't open so I had to wait 3 hours for a mate to finish work and bring tools to help me cut the lock off.
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

could have been worse.... it could have cracked off at the forks.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

did it twice myself but luckily just rolling the bike back and broke 2 fenders. the second one was only 2 weeks after I did it the first time and replace it.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
You need a bit of tubing.

Put it over your ignition key when you put your disc lock on, then you can't forget. When it's not over your ignition key, put it over your disc lock key so it doesn't scratch your top yoke.


This! Been doing it for over 20years and never forgot the lock on the bike.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought my luck was in..rang the local Suzi dealer to see how much a new err...'bit' (still don't know the actual name of it) would cost...jaw hit the floor when he told me that they're £60. £60 for a piece of cast ally..?? Shocked

But, then he said there was someone in the shop who happened to have calipers that would fit and wanted £50.00. Great! I thought. So went and got them, just got back and surprise surprise...it doesn't fit. I can't even use the whole caliper assembly as the fork boltholes are totally different.

That said, he does have the rest of the bike (GSXR 750) for sale for £100. It's pretty tatty, but the forks are adjustable (and I assume much better than standard Bandit ones..?) so I could get that, rob the forks off it and use the calipers.

But that'll take time, and I'm already gutted that I won't be able to use it for at least a few days next week. Crying or Very sad

If anyone has a set of Bandit calipers, or even just that bit, please let me know!


ms51ves3 wrote:
You need a bit of tubing.

Put it over your ignition key when you put your disc lock on, then you can't forget. When it's not over your ignition key, put it over your disc lock key so it doesn't scratch your top yoke.


That is a really good idea. Think I might try that! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you do realise it would be so easy to ally weld that back up? they would probably charge you a 5er, then you could file it all down and not be able to tell the difference.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 09 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
you do realise it would be so easy to ally weld that back up? they would probably charge you a 5er, then you could file it all down and not be able to tell the difference.

Didn't consider that as I've always assumed it wasn't possible to weld cast ally. If I can find someone who could do it, especially if they were local, that's a much better idea. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is possible to weld cast ally, but I don't think I would on a brake part Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once managed to snap a disk lock in 2 on my RS50 when I forgot it was on. I don't have these problems on the 500... it has drum brakes front and back Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

BanditsHigh wrote:
It is possible to weld cast ally, but I don't think I would on a brake part Thumbs Up

Well, the part itself isn't load bearing as such, I think, it's not under strain while braking at all (at least, not in the same way that it snapped) so I think it'd be safe enough. But it's really only until I can find a 2nd hand jobby to replace it. If I can find a replacement first then problem solved. If not, then weld if possible, until I can.

Whatever happens, I am not paying £60 for a bit of alumunium!
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to put my disc lock on immediately behind the caliper, so if I do forget it, there is the least movement possible before the lock connects with the caliper, minimising the momentum and chances of breaking it / dropping the bike.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Hammers wrote:
Well, the part itself isn't load bearing as such, I think, it's not under strain while braking at all (at least, not in the same way that it snapped)


Of course it's "load bearing", it's attached to the caliper stops it fulying off at warp speed when you apply the brakes! Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Mr Hammers wrote:
Well, the part itself isn't load bearing as such, I think, it's not under strain while braking at all (at least, not in the same way that it snapped)


Of course it's "load bearing", it's attached to the caliper stops it fulying off at warp speed when you apply the brakes! Shocked


I mean the stress of that particular part (and I'm not 100% sure of this, I should add) is that the stress isn't where the breakage is. It only broke there because it's not designed to have a disclock hit it.

I had a good look when I took it off tonight, and it looks like the pressure of braking would have the effect of actually pushing the two pieces together, rather than apart. All a weld would need to do is to make sure it didn't move.

Ohh, I don't know. I'm already having second thoughts about welding it now (thanks, BanditsHigh Rolling Eyes ........ Wink ) so I might not bother now anyway. Just use the car (shudder) until I get a decent replacement part.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 10 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if its ally welded, it will be near enough the same strength as the original material.

the material used is always well in excess of what is required anyway.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 11 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay... got it welded;

https://www.planetash.net/bcf/caliper-weld1.jpg
https://www.planetash.net/bcf/caliper-weld2.jpg

It looks strong, and the welder assures me it's as strong or possibly even stronger than it was originally. I only hope it's welded straight enough that it still fits.

Guess I'll find that out tonight...

Oh, and it only cost a fiver too Smile
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 11 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ideal. now file it down so it doesnt look like a slug. as long as the penitration is ok, it wont compromise the strength.
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