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The Artist
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: web design ideas Reply with quote

I am planning on re building my website. Small business and gets busy in the summer. Mostly information with a page for a shop with add to cart buttons etc all done through paypal. Now it was made in Frontpage with frames Cool so it's pretty crappy.

I am looking for some radical ideas to integrate into the website.

I am starting from scratch. Using Dreamweaver 8 and maybe expression studio 2. I can't code fluently but I can modify stuff by using common sense in the code.

So far the plan is to have a simple info site with a link to my online shop which will be php driven using a template like cubecart or similar. I hate oscommerce.

Anyone got any cool ideas for the website? Doesn't need to be product orientated. Maybe a menu you saw or any really good ideas you have seen before.

I will Karma you so much you might actually die.

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PostPosted: 00:25 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a starting page with a nice picture to do with the product that the person then clicks on a link to enter the page? Always makes the company look more proffesional if done right imo.
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PostPosted: 07:18 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
What about a starting page with a nice picture to do with the product that the person then clicks on a link to enter the page? Always makes the company look more proffesional if done right imo.

Of course you're obviously joking about that.

If I were doing it, I'd just use an online cart and muck about with a template. You need to be GOOD to make a better website coding in HTML.

What's wrong with OScommerce? Why do you hate it? Think of not the front end that customers will see, think of the admin you can do, adding products, selling in different currencies, adding payment modules and so on). When you've picked the features you want to USE the website, lay it out how you want.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
Matthie wrote:
What about a starting page with a nice picture to do with the product that the person then clicks on a link to enter the page? Always makes the company look more proffesional if done right imo.


Of course you're obviously joking about that.


Umm no... and mossy agrees with me. Confused
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
What about a starting page with a nice picture to do with the product that the person then clicks on a link to enter the page? Always makes the company look more proffesional if done right imo.


Do you mean like a big page full of thumbnails? Then you click on a picture to look at something in more detail?

OSCommerce is pretty ok in my experience.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he means a splash page. Which would be very cool.

If it was 1998.
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
I think he means a splash page. Which would be very cool.

If it was 1998.


Aaa, I thought he meant that, but then re-read and convinced myself overwise. Yes splash pages suck. They serve no purpose at all.
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was just a idea to try help, what's with all the slating?
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PostPosted: 13:00 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, let's see what you meant - splash pages are indeed WAY COOL if you're 12 and it's 1996, but since neither of those are true, I'll just hope you meant a catalogue of images arranged and you click on one for more info...

Matthie, go get us an example of this idea of yours so we can either slate you or eat humblefudge. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learn simple html and css! Then make your site fully validated! It will mean that the site is viewable on all devices and is better for SEO! It's easy!
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a mate who is working on a basic design at the moment and see what he comes up with.

Im looking for complete base ideas, not individual ones so any really good ideas please let me know.

I thought splash screen if I got the rest of the website to load in the time it takes the person to click the image would be good. Less waiting time for the potential customers.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
It was just a idea to try help, what's with all the slating?


You're on the internet now son, that's what folks do.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When designing sites I will quite often browse though site like this
https://www.freecsstemplates.org/css-templates/ to come up with Ideas for menus and bits of layout. I then code something similar to get the look I'm after.
If you are not very good at coding css you could just use the parts you like as you can down load the complete css and index page.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple is definitely best for e-commerce.

People are on there to look at the products, not look at the site design.
It obviously needs to be functional, but not much else.

https://www.threadless.com/

https://www.adventuretime.it/

https://www.oki-ni.com/icat/evisuall

https://www.pistolclothing.com.au/


Keep it super simple and let the product images provide the graphic interest.

OS-commerce for the win as well. Unless you want to spend AGES coding something from scratch. I've seen some really nice stores done in e-commerce.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 21 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't present enough information to potential new customers to get them to click that next link within 9 seconds of arriving at your page, chances are you've lost them.

That includes page loading time.

Try not to make life difficult for them with splash pages, flash animations, bad colour choices, confusing menus and an eye-crippling layout or they'll hit the back button before the page has loaded.

This one's brilliant:

https://havenworks.com/

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PostPosted: 01:04 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer cubecart to oscommerce although those website make it look like they designed the whole e-commerce system themselves.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
...This one's brilliant:

https://havenworks.com/

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That site made me feel physically sick. That hasn't happened in a while!

One suggestion I'd make is plan it out on paper first.

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PostPosted: 19:35 - 22 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, looking at the newer version of oscommerce it looks a lot better than the one I tried before.

Anyone know of any other e-commerce "kits" out there? Free preferably. That are any good and you have used.

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PostPosted: 06:08 - 23 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazza wrote:
This one's brilliant:

https://havenworks.com/

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I hope to god you are joking Embarassed

That is total over kill and me reaching for the close window box in less that 5 secs....
Information overload....

Forget splash pages, its just a waste of effort. The only people who seem to like them are the people who design them, everyone else is looking for the skip button.

Try to stay away from animated logo's or adds on the page. Movement attracts the eye's and this is diverting your customers away from the info they should be looking at.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 24 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthie wrote:
It was just a idea to try help, what's with all the slating?

Because, as an idea, it should be slated, lest he thinks it's a good one!
Obviously some people do think it makes it look 'professional', however not only do the majority think the opposite, but either way I suspect it will make people less likely to buy.
With such a site you want people to be able to get the point they can buy stuff as quickly as possible.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 24 May 2009    Post subject: eCommerce Reply with quote

If you're looking for an eCommerce solution, stay tuned! Myself and a few others are working together to write a PHP based eCommerce application, drop me a PM if you're interested.

(Weird first post for a bike forum really, but I feel safe here XD *geek*)
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: CMS joomla eCommerce Reply with quote

Hi, just an idea but why not base your site on a decent opensource cms like Joomla or one of the many avaliable. They all have decent plugins avaliable for them too. Just type in 'joomla eCommerce' into google.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 31 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Type "joomla exploits" into google first...
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