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| Howling TerrorOutOfOffice |
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 Posted: 01:34 - 27 May 2009 Post subject: North Korea...your solutions |
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So they've detonated another nuclear bomb, and launched some missiles. The UN has condemned the actions as aggressive with even China & South Korea chipping in.
Are we (the west) to ignore this?
My solution is simple. No need for sanctions, Counter threats. Just air-drop web ready phones and let them surf.
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| c_dug |
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Im not political expert but this is my opinion anyway.
Let them be, the same goes with iran and them making nuclear power.
I have reasons but i cant think how to word them, i'll edit this and add them if i can think of a suitable way to put it
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Thing is out of all the countries in the world to have a nuclear capability, the last country you want to have this capability is North Korea, Kim il Jong doesn't care one jot about his own population. I'm sure he wouldn't care about Seoul or Tokyo either.
People i've spoken too don't seem to worry about this as it is on the other-side of the world. This is such a stupid view to have, a nuclear bomb going off anywhere will affect us. Maybe not so physically, though the nuclear winter on the other side of the world would have an impact on our climate, but if Tokyo goes down, then our economy will really go to pot. It would probably also act as a chain reaction and those tentative relations around the world, the US and Russia would again come to a head.
The China issue would also come forward. I think the world should be concerned about this renewed aggression from North Korea. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| cyberglass |
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 Posted: 11:40 - 27 May 2009 Post subject: |
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Wait till they deceide to test there next nuke. Then nuke them and say it must of been an accidental detonation of there own nuke.
We cant just let it be There leaders a fucking psycho as soon as he gets a bomb south koreas days are numbered.
It will all end up in a nuclear crisis which we would be involved in as the yanks are allied to south korea and were allied to the yanks.
if north korea get the bomb japan will want one to for protection remembering that japan are years ahead in technology there bomb could destroy the entire planet.  ____________________ DL650 Vstrom 2004
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| GhostRider |
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Dont know what the fuss is all about, they were hardly cries of panic when Dubya Bush had his finger hovering over the red button for 8 years, and the guys devoid of any trace of intelligence or compassion, and isn't too bothered about raping and pillaging over countries either.
The other countries are just pissy because theres a new country that can now turn around and tell them to go fuck themselves since with their new nuke they can't be bullied anymore.
Personally the mood I'm in today, I couldn't give a rats ass if they started dropping them now, and the retaliation that went with it.
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| Jon B wrote: | a nuclear bomb going off anywhere will affect us. Maybe not so physically, though the nuclear winter on the other side of the world would have an impact on our climate, |
A "nuclear winter" would need lots and lots of multiple nuclear detonations to throw enought earth into the atmosphere ie from a massive Russia/USA nuclear war, The former soviet union have set off devices up to 52 megatons (anything bigger is too large to have a pratical delvery system) plus multiple devices have been exploded in series before when creating man-made lakes/channels in the former soviet union and there has never had there been a "nuclear winter". ____________________ Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV |
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| Mister James |
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 Mister James I want to believe!

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 Posted: 18:09 - 27 May 2009 Post subject: |
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| Skudd wrote: | Obama keeps banging on about the international laws and how North Korea has broken them. These are the laws set out by America and the west.
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https://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/
I think you'll find they're set out by the UN.
First Bush gets pilloried for allegedly breaking International Law (that elusive thing that barely exists) but now you say that it's a tool of the western oppressors.
I wish people would make their minds up.
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N.K. are doing what all the other nuclear countries have done or are doing. It is just that the so called super powers are not as super as they thought.
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Great, so instead of people make a rational decision on whether it's a good idea for the most bizarre state in the world to be tooled up, they are just thinking "Tee-hee, isn't it funny to see the Yanks upset".
Fickle, short-sighted morons.
Leave aside everyone's irrational hatred of America and the West (and remembering that we live in the West), does anyone actually think it's desirable for NK to have nukes?
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he latest manufactured crisis. The economy is in the shitter, the forecast aint good. The peasants have noticed the bankers running off with the loot and aren't happy, and we need a distraction. TV just aint cutting it. How about a war?
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*Yawn*
Hey, is it just and so possible that this is a genuine crisis that isn't 'manufactured' by The Evil Conspiracy?
Jeebus, change the record.
| Ghostrider wrote: | Personally the mood I'm in today, I couldn't give a rats ass if they started dropping them now, and the retaliation that went with it.
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Nuclear weapons are here, there is no changing that, to be safe from them, you need to have your own, and more importantly be able to launch them back.
So why are we so surprised?
And why do we have the right to maintain them ourselves, but to tell others that they aren't allowed. Because we are the 'sensible' ones I suppose. Yeah right.
It isn't popular with the west, because we lose our 'power' over them, and no longer get to dictate to them how to behave, its a farce really.
Of course there are some -communists are evil- angles that come in to it as well.
According to mutually assured destruction, the safest situation would be to issue them to all countries, and we have one big stalemate.
Then if they want to roll out the tanks and play soldiers with South Korea let them get on with it. ____________________ So in other words, he stopped you for being flagrantly in posession of a motorcycle in direct contravention of the Hippies, Darkies and People Whose Face I Don't Like The Look of (Police Powers) Act. 1976 |
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Even though the perceived threat would be low if every country had nukes, there will ALWAYS be someone who would like to start a full scale nuclear war. Take a culture who believes in martyrs, if someone were to blow up him or herself as an act of martyrdom, i'm sure they would have no qualms about destroying the rest of the world in the process.
MAD works, but only with sane countries. MAD worked during the Cold War because both the USA and the USSR had a lot at stake, some of these third world countries don't. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Nukes work because no one is gonna fuck with you if you have one.
For a country like Iran, that has been victim of numerous American attempts at interference, getting nukes would be a pretty important self protection.
With North Korea, its one man's ego trip at the expense of his country, who can starve for all he cares.
Issuing every country with nukes, would end up like the way all americans have hand guns, and accidents or anger happens. Also, America couldnt allow all countries being able to have a defense against invasion.
America is powerful enough to dominate countries to get what it wants. If everyone had nukes, that could be more tricky. The reason for banning Iraq having chemical, biological or nuclear weapons was so that is was defenceless against invasion, and its the same with IRAN.
An oil pipeline from the oil states to china would make loads of money, as at the moment it all has to be sent by tanker. Chinas demand is going to keep growing, so there is a lot of money to be made.
Most wars are about control of resources, and are excused by lies about grand abstract ideas, like religion, politics, or whatever.
Its a lot easier to get someone to die for a cause, than die to make a rich man richer.
A ridiculous example of this, is in Pakistan, a kid was talked into being a suicde bomber to settle a family feud. The kid had been told any old bullshit, and the family had paid the bombmaker.
Thats a lot like the way soldiers are told any old shit, to make them willing to 'die for their country'. ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 120 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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