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konsoli
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 24 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re-building plastics... Reply with quote

I'm buying a piece of s*(% bike...all the fairings are smashed/cracked/scratched.

I plan on sanding it all down, coating in plastic primer and respraying a brand new fresh colour.

I've done it on my car but with plastic it's different. Just wondered can I use p38 and p40 on plastic fairings? Will it fill the cracks/splits efficiently? cheers lads Very Happy I'll make a project log for sure as I'm buying the bike for £20...so you can imagine it's a right shed! Razz All road legal though and it passed it's last MOT with flying colours...after the MOT tester chuckled and said "no chance" as soon as it was brought in the station. Thumbs Up Mechanically it's perfect.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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only tiny, but I'm going to re-do my CBT again then my A2 and I'm 20. So shouldn't be too long before I get a proper 'un.

It's been stolen a few times...(one time the thief drove it into a car)...Which has totally messed up most the fairings and main body which I plan to repair.

Which is okay because my parents found the theif and beat the shit out of him...then we took him to court and got him locked up for a year 'cus he held a screwdriver to my stomach to steal the bike. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could fibreglass the cracks/holes etc.

Most of the repairs I've seen to plastics have been using fibreglass on track bikes, so I'm not sure how long it would last.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don’t know about painting but for cracks i used e-poxy resin on the underside of the fairing - if its a really flexible plastic then fibre glass may be too rigid.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

so much fucking work but is doable
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
if your gonna have to go buy stuff, then it might not be worthwhile.
but i'd use whatever you have lying around.
i have previously used isopon bumperfill, (surprisingly effective), fastglass for bigger holes,(using the matting to bridge the hole & then filler over the top), P38, P40 all successfully.
expect it to take a fair bit of time & effort.
sanding it down,
filling the holes & scratches,
sanding it down, again,
a good couple of coats of plastic primer.
sanding it back, again,(spot the pattern here? lol),
respray then laqcuer..
if this is gonna be a rattle can job, & you have to buy all the aerosols plus wet & dry,glass fibre kit & filler, it may work out quite expensive.
sometimes its cheaper getting replacement panels, but i have rescued some pretty beaten up panels.
purely to save money, lol.
but i've usually got plenty of filling & repairing products & have the gun for respraying.
post some before ,during & after pics.
let us know how you get on.
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
Hi,
if your gonna have to go buy stuff, then it might not be worthwhile.
but i'd use whatever you have lying around.
i have previously used isopon bumperfill, (surprisingly effective), fastglass for bigger holes,(using the matting to bridge the hole & then filler over the top), P38, P40 all successfully.
expect it to take a fair bit of time & effort.
sanding it down,
filling the holes & scratches,
sanding it down, again,
a good couple of coats of plastic primer.
sanding it back, again,(spot the pattern here? lol),
respray then laqcuer..

if this is gonna be a rattle can job, & you have to buy all the aerosols plus wet & dry,glass fibre kit & filler, it may work out quite expensive.
sometimes its cheaper getting replacement panels, but i have rescued some pretty beaten up panels.
purely to save money, lol.
but i've usually got plenty of filling & repairing products & have the gun for respraying.
post some before ,during & after pics.
let us know how you get on.
cheers,
GAZ


Plastic primer, then laquer?
not going to use any colour then mate? Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
stirlinggaz wrote:

expect it to take a fair bit of time & effort.
sanding it down,
filling the holes & scratches,
sanding it down, again,
a good couple of coats of plastic primer.
sanding it back, again,(spot the pattern here? lol),
respray then laqcuer..



Plastic primer, then laquer?
not going to use any colour then mate? Laughing


couple of coats of plastic primer, sand it back, respray, then laquer.

haha.
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stirlinggaz
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plastic primer, then laquer?
not going to use any colour then mate? Laughing[/quote]

couple of coats of plastic primer, sand it back, respray, then laquer.

haha.[/quote]

Hi,
thank-you.
good to see someones paying attention in here, lol
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha no problem. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 25 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, I've got the bike now, cleaned the sparkplug, air filter and despite it being sat for 4 months with the same petrol in tank etc, it started first time!

Been sanding down the fairings today, I was doing it all by hand until the other halves dad came round with a sanding machine. I had really bad "wankers cramp", lol. I'll post a project log when I can upload the piccys tomorrow and link you guys to it Smile
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 27 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

konsoli wrote:
Right, I've got the bike now, cleaned the sparkplug, air filter and despite it being sat for 4 months with the same petrol in tank etc, it started first time!

Been sanding down the fairings today, I was doing it all by hand until the other halves dad came round with a sanding machine. I had really bad "wankers cramp", lol. I'll post a project log when I can upload the piccys tomorrow and link you guys to it Smile


hi,
always find you get a better result NOT using a sander.
just use a sanding block.
i find that it turns out smoother.more consistant.
the sanders ok for starting off, when actually REMOVING paint.
but for flattening it back, the sander isnt with the hassle.
i know it takes longer & is more effort, but its worth it in the end.
cheers,
GAZ
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:

i always find you get a better result NOT using a sander

yeah i did use a sanding block for the final layer of sanding down tbh.

I've finally made a project log, I'm not finished but here's what I have so far:
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=177439
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