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PostPosted: 22:15 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: powersliding?? Reply with quote

does any one know how to do a power slide, or rolling burnout as some people call it?

im guessing...
Arrow move at slow speed (10mph)
Arrow pull in clutch,
Arrow REV!,
Arrow pull front brake in quite far,
Arrow slowly let out clutch untill wheel spins,
Arrow adjust front brake to control speed.

is that right??
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Re: powersliding?? Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
does any one know how to do a power slide, or rolling burnout as some people call it?

im guessing...
Arrow move at slow speed (10mph)
Arrow pull in clutch,
Arrow REV!,
Arrow pull front brake in quite far,
Arrow slowly let out clutch untill wheel spins,
Arrow adjust front brake to control speed.

is that right??


Go for it son, I might buy the salvage . Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Power sliding and rolling burnouts are completly different things......
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that i can do it very well but rolling burn outs i get the wheel spinning quickly in first gear on the spot, then slowly ease off of the front brake.

Haven't really got the power to keep the going for long but it certainly makes a good start that way Thumbs Up

I could explain the theory to drifting/powersliding but i cant do it myself, i would rather not be responsible for your impending death so if you want to drift it then go google it Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 23:05 - 30 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

what bike do you ride?

there is a powersliding tutorial here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj1GGsxPk9Q
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: powersliding?? Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
does any one know how to do a power slide, or rolling burnout as some people call it?

im guessing...
Arrow move at slow speed (10mph)
Arrow pull in clutch,
Arrow REV!,
Arrow pull front brake in quite far,
Arrow slowly let out clutch untill wheel spins,
Arrow adjust front brake to control speed.

is that right??


When you say rolling burnout you mean like the one that the guy does on the bike in The fast and The Furious: and the Tokyo Drift?
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

a burnout is when you hold the front brake and burn the rear wheel up....

a rolling burnout is there the rear wheen is burning up but your moving forward slowly, hence.. rolling burnout.

thats what im aiming for.

i thought a powerslide was the same thing?? or is a powerslide like a drift?
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

r0b wrote:
what bike do you ride?

there is a powersliding tutorial here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj1GGsxPk9Q


600 hornet. haha nah not a powerslide then, rolling burnout. i wouldnt want to attempt a powerslide


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PostPosted: 10:41 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
a burnout is when you hold the front brake and burn the rear wheel up....

a rolling burnout is there the rear wheen is burning up but your moving forward slowly, hence.. rolling burnout.

thats what im aiming for.

i thought a powerslide was the same thing?? or is a powerslide like a drift?


You mean a rolling burnout.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: powersliding?? Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
does any one know how to do a power slide, or rolling burnout as some people call it?

im guessing...
Arrow move at slow speed (10mph)
Arrow pull in clutch,
Arrow REV!,
Arrow pull front brake in quite far,
Arrow slowly let out clutch untill wheel spins,
Arrow adjust front brake to control speed.

is that right??


No, it's not. What you need to do is apply more power to the tyre than can be handled by it's grip. There are two main methods:

a) Whack the throttle open very fast.

b) Feed the throttle into the clutch aggressively.

In both cases, if your weight is over the rear wheel you'll wheelie or flip it (weight = grip). If you move your weight over to the front end of the bike you remove weight from the rear tyre and it'll spin.

a) is a bad method (minimal control), b) is good (full control).

The potential problem comes once you have the rear spinning and it then grips suddenly, possibly spitting you off. It's a very dynamic equation/balancing of forces. Also bear in mind that a rolling burnout is an entirely different animal to a power-slide. The RB has the tyre effectively motionless in terms of travel, the PS has the tyre going sideways while travelling at high speed. Most racers high-side because they bottle it when they feel the rear lose grip. The successful power-sliders are those who understand more power is required to keep the rear wheel loose until the bike is aligned in such a way it can regain grip without launching the bike and rider into the air. But they also have to ensure they don't apply too much power such that the rear completely loses traction and they low-side.

The best, and safest, way to learn the technique is on an off-roader on loose shit. And you do it until you've become as one with the machine, it's tyres and the surface and it's second-nature. Then take it to tarmac and smash yourself and the bike up a few times while you discover how much harder it is with a tyre and surface that's designed to grip rather than give. It's a lot easier on a wet road/track obviously.

Final comment...don't do it, because you'll be hurt, both physically and financially. Be content if you can handle the occasional rear-end 'moment' without losing the bike into the shrubbery.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks hetzer, noted: i will not try it haha. i dont mind damaging myself but id hate to damage the bike Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: powersliding?? Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
carlperkins001 wrote:
does any one know how to do a power slide, or rolling burnout as some people call it?

im guessing...
Arrow move at slow speed (10mph)
Arrow pull in clutch,
Arrow REV!,
Arrow pull front brake in quite far,
Arrow slowly let out clutch untill wheel spins,
Arrow adjust front brake to control speed.

is that right??


No, it's not. What you need to do is apply more power to the tyre than can be handled by it's grip. There are two main methods:

a) Whack the throttle open very fast.

b) Feed the throttle into the clutch aggressively.

In both cases, if your weight is over the rear wheel you'll wheelie or flip it (weight = grip). If you move your weight over to the front end of the bike you remove weight from the rear tyre and it'll spin.

a) is a bad method (minimal control), b) is good (full control).

The potential problem comes once you have the rear spinning and it then grips suddenly, possibly spitting you off. It's a very dynamic equation/balancing of forces. Also bear in mind that a rolling burnout is an entirely different animal to a power-slide. The RB has the tyre effectively motionless in terms of travel, the PS has the tyre going sideways while travelling at high speed. Most racers high-side because they bottle it when they feel the rear lose grip. The successful power-sliders are those who understand more power is required to keep the rear wheel loose until the bike is aligned in such a way it can regain grip without launching the bike and rider into the air. But they also have to ensure they don't apply too much power such that the rear completely loses traction and they low-side.

The best, and safest, way to learn the technique is on an off-roader on loose shit. And you do it until you've become as one with the machine, it's tyres and the surface and it's second-nature. Then take it to tarmac and smash yourself and the bike up a few times while you discover how much harder it is with a tyre and surface that's designed to grip rather than give. It's a lot easier on a wet road/track obviously.

Final comment...don't do it, because you'll be hurt, both physically and financially. Be content if you can handle the occasional rear-end 'moment' without losing the bike into the shrubbery.


that is sound advice lol
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

or if someone is really wanting to learn the technique starting on something low powered and small so easy to handle would be a good idea
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

davthegreat wrote:
or if someone is really wanting to learn the technique starting on something low powered and small so easy to handle would be a good idea


Yup, because low powered bikes are perfect for rolling burnouts. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

davthegreat wrote:
or if someone is really wanting to learn the technique starting on something low powered and small so easy to handle would be a good idea


nah, best way is a very cheap 600 or 750 like a gsxr or cbr ect.
like 1000pound jobby.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blutonium92 wrote:
davthegreat wrote:
or if someone is really wanting to learn the technique starting on something low powered and small so easy to handle would be a good idea


nah, best way is a very cheap 600 or 750 like a gsxr or cbr ect.
like 1000pound jobby.


yeah a shoddy cbr600 would be ideal. i wouldnt have to insure it, just take it down the airfield and wreck it. haha.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
davthegreat wrote:
or if someone is really wanting to learn the technique starting on something low powered and small so easy to handle would be a good idea


Yup, because low powered bikes are perfect for rolling burnouts. Rolling Eyes


Had no problems on my KMX 125 many years ago, it's all about technique not power as all the weight is over the front wheel anyway.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the guys at work here did a rolling burnout the other day... at 160....

Throttle jammed on full on his CBR 600 rr in 6th gear when overtaking and when hitting the brakes (before the clutch) it span up and shredded the tyre... Shocked

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