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Mellow Matt
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: CB500 stunter? Reply with quote

My GSXR is going to become my main bike within the next few weeks, and I was originally going to sell off my CB500. I've been thinking about having a go at learning how to do proper wheelies and stoppies etc, and thought maybe a crappy old CBR600 would be a good idea.

I did a search on stunt bikes on here for some info though, and saw that CB500s had been suggested as decent learner stunters, but wondered what people thought?

It would be easier in terms of not having the hassle of selling & buying a bike, but I'd have to do some modifications and things I imagine - crash cage etc? I don't know if the lack of power would make it too difficult? I can kind of pop the front wheel up with the clutch in 1st, but haven't really tried too hard, would a new sprocket set be needed or something?

Any advice would be good, cheers Smile
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: CB500 stunter? Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:

Any advice would be good, cheers Smile


Well I've seen some impressive stuff done on a CB500, and some even more impressive stuff on a CG125. I don't think it really matters what bike you learn on as long as you are happy that it might get dropped. To be honest I can't think of a much better learner stunt bike than a CB.

Also, you don't need to go to the US to get a crash cage, because they do them over here except they call them 'engine bars" !

Don't sell the CB, don't touch the sprockets, buy some engine bars, sort the brakes and practice practice practice (on quiet 'closed' industrial estates of course, don't be a twat and practice in rush hour traffic! )

Good luck.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: CB500 stunter? Reply with quote

Cheers MarJay Smile

MarJay wrote:

Also, you don't need to go to the US to get a crash cage, because they do them over here except they call them 'engine bars" !


Embarassed As someone who tends to get a little irked by Americanisms, I apologise! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 01 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: CB500 stunter? Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
Cheers MarJay Smile

MarJay wrote:

Also, you don't need to go to the US to get a crash cage, because they do them over here except they call them 'engine bars" !


Embarassed As someone who tends to get a little irked by Americanisms, I apologise! Laughing


Its OK, for sportsbikes and stuff they are called crash cages, but for the CB500, GS500, ER5, then engine bars do the same job.

What I'm saying is that Engine bars have been around for years for 'commutery' bikes, and they are crash cages in all but name. And they are about 80% cheaper.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right, excellent, I'll keep an eye out then, cheers.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can definitely get 'em... my CB was an ex-school bike and was fitted with a good set of engine bars. I was so used to them that when I saw another CB without them it looked sort of wrong without them!
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

David silvers do crash bars. But ebay or breakers would be cheaper.
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

why not just use the GSXR? SRADs wheelie well, and come up nicely in 2nd if you try hard enough.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to use the SRAD as I don't want to trash it, the CB would be easier to protect from damage I'd imagine.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: CB500 stunter? Reply with quote

It's generally easier to have a higher power bike when starting out.
This means you can balance the bike more easily and at a lower height.
A lower bike means you have to get it pretty high and keep it high to keep it up, rather than working it up slowly.
So you're more likely to crash on the lower powered bike.

I'd start on your GSXR, then move on to the CB when you're happy with getting it up fast and holding the balance point.
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
I don't want to use the SRAD as I don't want to trash it, the CB would be easier to protect from damage I'd imagine.


parts are cheap and easy to come by, and they crash VERY well as i found out a few times.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 02 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
I don't want to use the SRAD as I don't want to trash it, the CB would be easier to protect from damage I'd imagine.

No reason for you to crash doing wheelies when you're first starting out on a bigger bike unless you're a complete twat.
You're more likely, I'd say, to crash a lower powered bike.

If you're planning the CB as a 'stunt bike' then I'd say it's more a case of making sure the damage is to bits you don't care about.

Personally I'd put the time into learning the basics safely before considering mods to the bike.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I can wheelie my GS500 quite easily, however, I need to be going quite slowly to get it to balance, but once it's there, I'd say it's very easy to keep there as it's not as twitchy as my DRZ or SV1000 (SV just wants to fall over all the time Laughing )

I definitely think a GS/CB is a good starting point, having said that, I did start off learning on a sports 600 myself.

I've yet to crash from intentionally doing a wheelie. Smile
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm.

Maybe I'll practise wheelies on both bikes then! I might buy some untidy fairings for the SRAD for trackdays anyway, they could double up as wheelie practice fairings...
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
Hmmmm.

Maybe I'll practise wheelies on both bikes then! I might buy some untidy fairings for the SRAD for trackdays anyway, they could double up as wheelie practice fairings...


ive got pretty much a complete set other than the nosecone that are shitted up, but not cracked.

£50 + delivery?

also. take out your headlight if you think you might drop it. its the only weak point of SRADs i can think of.
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might take you up on that, got any pics?

My SRAD's still got its engine out at the moment, as we've just replaced 2nd gear, but should be good to go soon-ish... Hopefully.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill have your CB5 for spares for my CB5 =)
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seb JS wrote:
Ill have your CB5 for spares for my CB5 =)


Heheh, it's in good condition, so it's not really going to be the best bike for spares I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mellow Matt wrote:
I might take you up on that, got any pics?

My SRAD's still got its engine out at the moment, as we've just replaced 2nd gear, but should be good to go soon-ish... Hopefully.


no pics as of yet, but the side panels have no damage, just the paint removed.
rear panels are blue and white. one side in OK condition, the other side has a pretty hefty scrape down it.
i've got about 4 sets in various states of destruction so i'll have a look.
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Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith
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