BBC3 'can I get high legally?'

[yuri2085]

While I found it interesting and I didnt know there are things with almost the same effect as MDMA and cannabis that are legal (or were..gonna look it up a bit more; but the presenter was filmed doing it in his house in a bong so yer...)

But what I found annoying was how it is assumed that people shouldnt be allowed to get high.. its bad.

also and i quote 'they can be bought in shops so the kids will think its ok to have these as much as they drink coke and have sweeties'

Actually EVERYTHING IN MODERATION is best btw.
I dont understand why governments and most people have it drummed into their heads that drugs are bad. EVEN though most of the bad effects of drugs are caused by the fact they are illegal anyway -_-

(dirty drugs/gang violence/crack whores etc)

Grr this programme really looks like its being objective and not so anti drug as most people in positions of authority but its clear he has this preset view 'drugs are bad'

A quote 'blah blah drug was banned in sweden when a user took it and then died'
Also 'people who have died and had also taken this drug were mixing it with illegal drugs and alcohol'.

They are all having wet dreams about the idea of 'prohibition' but luckily the US showed them it dosnt work. (no other lessons were learnt though)

Sorry for rabbly rant but grr this whole drugs legislation deal is so annoying for me.
I personally dont do much drugs; weed a couple times and making it legal wouldnt make me go OMG HEROIN nor is anyone I have ever spoken to about the subject not doing heroin because it is illegal.
So much bullshit propaganda is spewed about drugs aswell.

A quick point of view here, some people do illegal drugs and not these legal ones because they think they wont work; hence legislation isnt a sign of danger, but rather a stamp of approval 'this works' SO FAIL

Much love /rant

this btw should be on iplayer soon

[yuri2085]

Seeing as it seems they are repeating it before putting it on iplayer I will refer you to this thread.

[stinkwheel]

Some of the "legal" ones are worse. I once tried some BZP, give me proper speed over that any day!
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As long as there are so many with vested interests in pot staying illegal, it'll stay illegal. That includes the government, the police, breweries and drug companies that lobby parliament.

All drugs should be legalised. It's a counter-intuitive view to most people, but it is the only way forward. Only when we realise that will the situation will improve.

Haven't watched it yet, but it's a shame that program took the easy option of just condemning it all, but it doesn't surprise me. I can't remember the last time I saw anything on uk tv that showed a modicum of common sense on the subject.
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learn how to grow your own cannabis, "fake drugs" are mostly chemical based
I prefer mine the nature intended and that way I know what I'm smoking
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[The Artist]

It's the BBC. They can't say anything definite otherwise people will complain.

They are not going to say "oh legal highs are good, go smoke them" but they are not gonna say "legal highs are crap, don't ever do it"

Load of balls it was.

They should focus on making marijuana legal asap

[G]

Sadly, it seems, getting hold of pure MDMA is even harder these days.

I've tried a decent few 'legal' drugs designed to be copies of illegal ones in the past (some time ago now, I admit) - none really came near.
When I worked at Starbucks, someone that worked there used to do ten-shot espressos. I suggested he just take a dab of speed - I suspect it'd be considerably less 'bad' for you, giving a similar stimulating affect with much less bad side-affects.

[yuri2085]

In my mindless waffle I probably didnt get my point across, but I basically agree with all that you guys have said.
What i meant about them saying its 'bad' was he always seemed to have this underlying message that even though most of the illegal drugs arent dangerous if clean (well...everything is dangerous), that its bad for society if people sometimes get high and have a good time.

Like its something to be worried about.

The thread i linked to in my second post shows a pretty interesting film that i stayed up till 3 watching. I recommend it.

[The View Askew]

Well, methadone is hardly "Good for you" is it, but it isn't illegal, It probably is controlled though.
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[quacker_boy]

Hmm, seems to be fairly varied opinions on this so I'll stick my nose in. Having tried the legal high called 'Spice' I found it tasted like marshmallows that had been left over a fire for far too long and very quickly made my mouth feel much like the inside of Ghandi's sandal; crusty, sandy, gritty and very dry. It was horrible.

The high I got from it was a very different high to cannabis though, I did get the giggles quite badly when me and two of my best mates were sat in a restaurant in Bournemouth though, that was humilating. I don't even know how to describe the high or compare the two but I enjoy weed a lot more and I'll be sticking to that.

I still think marijuana should be legalised, it's a plant that grows out of the ground for fuck's sake! And I shall now give you an example of why it's good for you. My dealer is a chav, through and through, trackies, white trainers, Henri Lloyd hoodies or whatever the hell it is they wear. But I've smoked with him quite a few times and despite appearances he's actually a really genuine honest mate.

If weed, a naturally occuring plant, can turn someone that is stereotyped as a total arsehole and a menace to society into a decent laid back guy that you can have a conversation with without the word 'bruv' or 'innit' being used every other word then it can't be a bad thing can it? And if I'm not mistaken marijuana is prescribed over the counter in the States for a variety of illnesses. The most common of course being artheritis.

Fuck it. If the Government want to carry on with their little power trip and classify drugs into different categories and make things illegal then they can, I don't take pride in what I do as being illegal but regardless of whether it's legal or not, I'm still going to smoke it.

*carries on rolling a fat one*
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[Clanger]

I want to know why it is illegal to do stuff to the body you are born with...rules and regulations everywhere!

I got told off for biting my nails by a random stranger in Sainsbury's, I told him that I will do with MY fingers what I bloody like!!!
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[hellkat]

yeah who cares if you can get wasted legally.
Whats wrong with getting wasted illegally?
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[hellkat]

Slight not off topic, but related to what two peeps have said up there ...


I know what ya mean about "not being allowed to do stuff", Clanger.

I was talkin to some old bird on the phone at work, some bitchy old patient that was giving it some large verbal about swine flu ... so I ate a crisp while I was listening to her banging on - I did that "folding it into me mouth and sort of not-crunching it but soaking it in my saliva thing ... and she went "Are you eating a sweet???" (just like a schoolteacher)

I actually fuckin blushed.
And told her I was biting my nails instead.

Fucks sake, I'm forty fucking seven.
And some old dragon can still make me feel like I'm 14 years old.


(mind you, so can a certain fellow of gently grizzled appearance, heh)
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[Ariel Badger]

I quite agree Kieth, the " it is harmless because it is just a plant" is the most stupid argument ever in favour of legalisation.
Opium Poppies.
Deadly Nightshade.
Wormwood.
Linseed
many more.
Are all common plants and will be less than good for you. If you still disagree go and roll a splif using the milk from some giant hogweed.
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[Clanger]

It's all down to control. Someone always has to be in control. Regulations and taxes for this that and the other...blah blah blah...
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