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andy_71
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: why can't men and women ' just be friends ' ? Reply with quote

Dear Auntie BCF,

i'm a bloke fairly average blah blah...

about 6 months ago i got chatting to a like minded person that happens to be a woman... initially this did not seem to create any problems at home, but over the months the missus has slowly got more and more jealous to the point we are arguing on a regular basis.

at this time i would like to point out that i have no intention now or in the future of making any advances on this friend and as of yet my friend has never made any advances towards me either.

we chat most days...

what can i do or say short of loosing a friend to convince my missus that nothing is going on ?

Thnaks
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats my whole point i chat regularly to many friends on a daily basis mostly while she watches the soaps, i am in the same room and make no attempt to hide any of my comunications.

it's just this one friend she seems to have a problem with, ok most of my mates are male, but i have a handful of female friends too, although i don't chat to those as regular as this one.

it just seems to me that she has decided to convince herself of an untruth and thats that.

Re. what if the tables where turned... been there done that told her that as long as she could assure me it would stay plutonic i had no objections, she broke off the freindship a week later go figure...

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PostPosted: 18:23 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops noobiw itchy finger, sorry double post..

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PostPosted: 18:23 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

By devoting some seriously decent quality time to your missus, affirming that it is her that you love. By not using your friend in any discussions...where it might be misinterpreted that you are comparing the two.

Being totally honest and above board with your missus about the stuff you chat about...not keeping any secrets, however minor they may seem to you.

Be honest. And, if your missus says that she is feeling vulnerable or worried, do NOT tell her she is being silly. Tell her you hear what she is saying, but she has absolutely nothing to worry about, ever. And listen to everything she has to say on the matter, however insignificant...she perhaps cannot help how she is feeling, but at least she is telling you how she is feeling...which is a good thing!

Good luck. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has your missus and the friend ever met? Maybe if you introduced them to each other, then they would get on and then your missus could see that there is no attraction between you and your friend. Women have an intuition about male and female friends, they can tell if theres even the slightest of sexual attraction. If theres nowt between you and your mate then its all win.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes they have met more than once and whilst i can't say they got along particularly well they were pleasant with each other.

the problem ( maybe i'm just been a miserable git) seems to have got worse since my friend stayed here a few times, and i have stay at hers i did ask my missus to come along to but she didn't want to.

the reason for staying at each others was purely a convenience thing as we are both members of a club and the following days meet was nearer from one or other of our houses, we live some distance apart.

i am been slightly vague as i'm not sure my friend reads these boards or not..
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

absolutely not, i have Male friends stop over and visa versa never says any thing then does she ?
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this woman was your friend before your relationship with your missus, then I wouldn't be shocked by the whole you've stayed over there statement.

But this is a new friend. No wonder your missus is feeling threatened, I think anyone would. Now you've shared this little gem, I think you need to make a decision....is the relationship with current partner more important or not?
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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we chat most days...


Do you chat to your missus most days? Sounds daft, but it may appear to her that you chat to this friend more than you do her.

It's an easy trap to fall in to, some evenings i'll be sat here, she will be sat on the sofa with the laptop, we will sit for hours and without realising not have uttered a word to one another, whilst put the world to rights with every other user of the internet.

Any long term partner is generally considered the best friend, as well as the boyfriend/girlfriend title. If she doesn't feel like she is the most important friend to you, she will lose that confidence and the arguments will begin.

Having close friends of the opposite sex whilst with a long term partner is always quite a tricky board to tread. Just be honest, if she wants to know what you talked about tell her. If she has met her and doesn't like her much, then don't bring your friend up where it isnt necessary.

I personally don't subscribe to "put yourself in her shoes" it doesnt work in both directions, we are different creatures and work in different ways. I don't know much, but I know that. What we would consider fine, may be the eighth deadly sin in her head (on their planet? Razz ), and we will never understand quite why.

Talk, ask what she wants, say what you want, get to the bottom of it, lay it all out.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wildgoose, you've hot the nail on the head, in a normal evening no we don't talk much, and it's not always for lack of trying, she is a total soap addict and it feels at times that i am to sit there and twiddle my thumbs in silence, should i interrupt her viewing then i know she'll be in a mood all night.

when i've have got any sense out of her she says that she feels neglected at times, and wants to do more together, no problem... i suggest a few things and what response do i get... don't fancy that, ain't doing that, cost too much, just one excuse after another and yet she is unable to suggest anything herself.

bah life suck sometimes, might as well go back to reading books she even complained about that ! but not so serverely...

it does seem as if we are getting ourselves into a rut, think i could do with a holiday and cut my contact with everyone else i know for a few weeks ans spend some quality time with the missus.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fine to have a female friend or friends whilst in a relationship, but be sensative, you do not need to chat to her all the time . . . . that is not what (adult) friends do. . . . . only shcool kids. .

I can see why your missus is unhappy.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it does seem as if we are getting ourselves into a rut, think i could do with a holiday and cut my contact with everyone else i know for a few weeks ans spend some quality time with the missus


Push for it, we got away last weekend just the two of us + the dog, first time in ages in probably well over a year, and it was really good. You don't realise how much you need it until you go away, we both made excuses putting it off for a long time.

Doesn't have to cost the earth, I don't care much for travelling overseas, we just went to the black mountains for the weekend.

Come back and life returns to the tedious trudge of filling time and working, but at least you have the good memories of the time spent away, and a good excuse to start planning for the next one.

Then when you start pissing each other off, as we do a fair bit. You will know why, and also what you can do about it when it gets to be too much.

Head fills with all sorts of shit when you don't get a break once in a while.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 03 Jul 2009    Post subject: Re: why can't men and women ' just be friends ' ? Reply with quote

andy_71 wrote:
what can i do or say short of loosing a friend to convince my missus that nothing is going on ?

Thnaks


Face up to the immutable fact of life that, as a mere bloke, you will always be in the wrong. Once you fully grasp that particular truth, life will become much simpler.

Failing that, punch one of them in the tits and do the other one up the garry...
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:
You're having a fucking laugh, aren't you. Laughing


What he said, soon as I read the bit about you staying over house, no matter what the reason is I can't imagine it's that necessary. You've got to be an idiot to realise it's not going to make your gf/wife suspicious. And as other say, turn the tables, if she had recently started chatting to a new bloke every day and then started staying over at his house don't even pretend you wouldn't be concerned, even if you trusted her entirely, would you trust him.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS - Girls are always being told that blokes can't just be mates with guys which doesn't help. . .

Personaly, I don't think thats nesc true.
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PostPosted: 07:25 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to say you had my sympathy....right up to admitting you slept over at hers Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kwaker6r wrote:
Got to say you had my sympathy....right up to admitting you slept over at hers Shocked


As long as it was top to tail and they had their PJ's on it's fine.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

andy_71 wrote:
the problem ( maybe i'm just been a miserable git) seems to have got worse since my friend stayed here a few times, and i have stay at hers i did ask my missus to come along to but she didn't want to...


Good fucking grief....... Shocked Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have hundreds of female friends, a lot of them through uni I was very close with and saw a lot of.

And 99% of them I would hit like a ginger stepchild, boyfriend or nay, given 20 minutes in a locked room together.

I did manage to stay living with a girl mate of mine for a month, damn near in the same room, basically as I knew her through my ex and the relationship was continued through lecture. I had jack shit interest in sleeping with her.

Had she not of had a boyfriend she was so attached to though Thinking

My point being is, men can have lots of female friends, but at the end of the day, sex underwrites it all. I mean honestly, say at one of these pre-arranged slumber parties, if she threw herself at you after a few you wouldn't be at all interested. She does in fact have a vagina doesn't she?

Christ, half my 'mates' at uni tried to fuck my ex/girlfriend. Men are bastards. So too right she's going to be a tad whiny that you devote massive amount of time to another girl, including sleepovers. One day, my son, /someone/ will initiate a good sound reaming.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:

And 99% of them I would hit like a ginger stepchild, boyfriend or nay, given 20 minutes in a locked room together.


Only nobs think with their nob Wink
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 04 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bonny is of course right in a general sense, its having the strength of character to do the decent thing despite what your cock is telling you, that is key.

If you havent the respect for the person above the sex object (which is none the less fucking important) then you are wasting your time being in a long term relationship with them.
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PostPosted: 07:00 - 05 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a female friend, known her since I was five years old, so have known her 36 years. We always hung around together as kids teenagers and early adulthood, we did do the rudies a couple of times but realised we were more mates than partners, both my and her's partners didn't get the friendship and we drifted apart due to spouse pressure. Now all these years later both of us are in the same boat, spouseless, and the friendship has been rekindled, nothing sexual although we do jokingly flirt knowing nothing will ever happen. It is good to have a true friend no matter what gender.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 05 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypie wrote:

Only nobs think with their nob Wink


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PostPosted: 19:29 - 05 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:
Bonny is of course right in a general sense, its having the strength of character to do the decent thing despite what your cock is telling you, that is key.
Indeed; you have to stand back and think. if she came onto you.... what would you do? I've been there a couple of times and walked away knowing id made the right choice in not 'going there'. Hell one even spread rumours I was gay Laughing .


Sit down and watch a couple of soaps with her, don't change your habits with the friend because the missus will suspect something is up or happened between you. But; NEVER stay over again, and next time don't go if your missus declines, stay with the missus in situations like that unless you'd leave her and go single if it came to it.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 05 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
I have hundreds of female friends, a lot of them through uni I was very close with and saw a lot of.

And 99% of them I would hit like a ginger stepchild, boyfriend or nay, given 20 minutes in a locked room together.

I did manage to stay living with a girl mate of mine for a month, damn near in the same room, basically as I knew her through my ex and the relationship was continued through lecture. I had jack shit interest in sleeping with her.

Had she not of had a boyfriend she was so attached to though Thinking

My point being is, men can have lots of female friends, but at the end of the day, sex underwrites it all. I mean honestly, say at one of these pre-arranged slumber parties, if she threw herself at you after a few you wouldn't be at all interested. She does in fact have a vagina doesn't she?

Christ, half my 'mates' at uni tried to fuck my ex/girlfriend. Men are bastards. So too right she's going to be a tad whiny that you devote massive amount of time to another girl, including sleepovers. One day, my son, /someone/ will initiate a good sound reaming.


Depends if his wife thinks he is more trustworthy than you.
Perhaps you should consider that seeing as you wouldnt want some1 cheating on you; dont be a cunt?
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