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Road Legal?
do you have an illegal exhaust
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do you have an illegal licence plate
8%
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do you have an illegal licence plate & exhaust
9%
 9%  [ 6 ]
totally road legal
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Mr Pants!
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Illegal riding Reply with quote

I am also interested in any comments you have on this subject.

Has anyone been done for illegal number plates or exhausts?

If you were done, what fine/points did you get?
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got an illegal exhaust. There's no way I'd get rid of it. Got a telling off for my number plate some weeks back now and I've had the legal one back on since. I don't think I'll put the illegal one back on either.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bikes 33bhp on paper, Race can, lack of clocks and a bald rear Tyre. Confused
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race can, visor, not actually restricted, race slick rear tyre Razz

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PostPosted: 10:09 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Race can (not offensively loud), smaller plate (not tiny). Been riding around like that for a couple of years and never been pulled, although I do ride sensibly. Probably just jinxed myself there.

The small plates/loud cans/dark visors are usually just extra things for the police to pick up on when they pull you over for being naughty, unless the police in question are on a full clamp down on motorcycles in which case they could pull you over for anything.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ride on the road I have no need for any of these things, other than a black visor, but that's not on the bike.
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PostPosted: 10:16 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Harley has an illegal exhaust (vane hines) and number plate but the police seem to leave harleys alone.

VFR I am a good boy

CBR 600 both plate and can both illegal
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bikes restriiced on paper.

i have no need for a black visor at the moment, i use sunglasses under because i cannot be asked to spend £40. they look cool though

race can is comming soon, hopfully, i find the stock can offensive...

small plates are a waste of time. legal one looks fine anyway. its just another thing for a poilceman to pickup on anyway...
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

my bikes fully legal but a mate of mine has; a number plate about 3inches tall and 6inches wide (which apparently when he gets flashed reflects back at the camera so he doesn't get caught, no idea if this works) illegal race pipe, fully derestricted (bearing in mind its a 50cc) and a black visor (not on the bike).
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

what bike is it?
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc_Buck wrote:
when he gets flashed reflects back at the camera so he doesn't get caught, no idea if this works

I seen this working on a certain someone's bike as I rode behind them when the sun was shining down on their plate. Couldn't read the plate at all as it was reflecting the sunlight and the plate turned completely white.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is an x reg suzuki ap50

and i never really believed him about the plate working.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't work - I found a site once proving the fact that they don't work.

The speed camera people have ways and means of getting your plate info from the picture.

Oh, and I find it laughable that he has done all that stuff to a 50cc!
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:
Marc_Buck wrote:
when he gets flashed reflects back at the camera so he doesn't get caught, no idea if this works

I seen this working on a certain someone's bike as I rode behind them when the sun was shining down on their plate. Couldn't read the plate at all as it was reflecting the sunlight and the plate turned completely white.


While its a loveley idea they don't work, all they do is

a. a copper will notice pull you and have you for an illegal plate
b. you get on a speed camera, they adjust the contrast, read your number and have you for an illegal plate and speeding.


It really is not worth being anything but legal, all it will do is attract unwanted attention, if your in an accident with any none road legal gear it will almost certainly get you in trouble... i think a louder can (within reason) is a safety + but going over the top will get lots of hassle...
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I agree with the plate stuff. I'm on a normal plate now. The little one came with the bike.

What's the deal if you have an accident and you're wearing an illegal visor? Can it be used against you so you can't win a claim? Just something I've been wondering about lately.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

hence the reason i kept mine legal, as my birthday is 4months i'm front of he's ill be doing about 90 while hes still doing 55-60 Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as i understand it (and i might be wrong) if anything illegal on the bike or you can be attributed to the accident you will probably get had for whatever your missing AND the insureance company will not pay out...

for example say somebody drives out of a junction in front of you, (assumeing its totaly their fault) your wearing your 70% tint visor, the insureance company can claim you did not see because of the visor and will not pay out anything, you will then have to bear the cost of your bike, their car and any other costs, your fault or not... also you get sent to insureance hell for a few years and the coolest bike you will be able to afford is a honda90.

If you really need to have a better tint either get a helmet with a visor built in (can be as dark as you like as its not the primary visor) or sunglasses.
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wearing a black visor when I was knocked off my bike last Feb. It was never a problem, wasn't even mentioned and I got a 100% settlement. Might have been a different story if it was night time or in bad weather.

I personally would not risk wearing sunglasses under my helmet, I quite like my face and eyesight.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

dainesefreak wrote:
I was wearing a black visor when I was knocked off my bike last Feb. It was never a problem, wasn't even mentioned and I got a 100% settlement. Might have been a different story if it was night time or in bad weather.


Theoreticaly they could, i think most of the time you'd get away with it... even people on restricted licences and unrestricted bikes have got away with it as it was never questioned, however if it was then you'd get in some serious poo.

Just one of those things, if you bike is a toy then its not a big deal, if its your only means of transport then its a big deal. mines the latter...
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProXimaCore wrote:


What's the deal if you have an accident and you're wearing an illegal visor? Can it be used against you so you can't win a claim? Just something I've been wondering about lately.


The only time it is likely to be an issue is if the cause of the accident can be attributed to you and the visor contributed to the causation.

For example I am dealing with a case at the moment where the rider was wearing a legal tinted visor at 7 intheevening inthe middle of winter, and he ploughed into a motorcycle because he couldn't see the cyclist. The visor was a contributory cause and we are holding him 100% liable on the basis that his view/vision was restricted.

In normal daytime conditrions however, this would/should not be an issue.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many police officers will turn a blind eye to black and tinted visors in weather like this, Only when its dark or visability is low will they do something (no rider is stupid enough to do that though are they?)
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

zero wrote:
Just one of those things, if you bike is a toy then its not a big deal, if its your only means of transport then its a big deal. mines the latter...


My bike is and never has been a toy, it is my only form of transport and has been for the last 11 years, all year. As I said earlier, I will do all in my power to aid safety and to me a dark visor is a safety aid as your sunglasses are to you.

If you ask TC about accidents involving riders wearing sunglasses and the kinds of injuries that they can sustain, then you might change your mind.

Everyone wears bangs on about wearing leathers on a bike for protection, which I do. I can't then justify wearing a plastic/metal object over my face that can cause significant damage.

I and obviously the police rider I see quite often wear a black visor when the conditions require it and would rather take my chances with an insurance claim, especially as I don't take the piss. Penny Coin Penny Coin
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

An insurance company might try and get out of paying up for anything illegal, but they will not get away with it. Basically they are liable anyway, but can try and claim back from you, but when it came to court they would loose if they tried claiming back everything due to a dodgy visor.

As to illegal plates and the like I don't think any of the bikes have blatantly illegal ones. The plate on the FZ was on there when I bought it in 1990 and is the correct size but the letter are made up of black and grey lines. Been pulled up by a copper checking for illegal plates and they didn't even mention it.

Exhaust wise the Bandit has a removable baffle. Currently running with the baffle in place as it is too much like hard work keeping it quiet otherwise. Not really worried about using it without the road legal baffle but consider it rude to not try and keep the noise down.

I have an illegal silencer for one of the Freccias but not using it at the moment. Ironically it is quieter (when freshly repacked) than the standard legal can. Have a similar can for one of the Aprilias and never had any problems with that, and again it is not noisy. Suspect both of these can were actually legal as far as noise level, but as they were never sold in the UK they do not have the required BS stamps.

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PostPosted: 13:23 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the exhaust on my bike tbh. It's a Remus end can with what appears to be evidence of having some words polished out. Totally unsure though as to whether it is a race can or not Confused It came with the bike from a dealer and they MOT'd it happily enough.

Nice noise though Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 08 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a smaller number plate, never got told off for it though.
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