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richrock
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: When waterproof isnt water proof (clothing advice) Reply with quote

Having just commuted home with a small ocean thrown in my face Rolling Eyes , I found that my 'waterproof and windproof' jacket isn't quite up to the job any more...

It's not that old, but realise that I may need to get it waterproofed with something. It's a synthetic textile one, and it is very windproof.

Any suggestions on what to use to improve it's repellent ability when it comes to the best weather Wales has?

And ditto for the leather gloves too. Absolutely no idea how to do those as they've got about a kajillion knobbly bits to protect my digits if I ever off Shocked . They have got holes for breathing too, but noticed that the rain just soaked into the leather.

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PostPosted: 19:18 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

its normaly the stitching that leaks on textile jackets, you can get water proofing stuff like you said, but i find i only really get wet when the rain pools up on the jacket and seeps through,
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nikwax is the stuff you need. You add it to a machine wash.

Dunno about leather gloves though. Confused
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 13 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather gloves can never be waterproof, it's down to the stitching.
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PostPosted: 07:43 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
Leather gloves can never be waterproof, it's down to the stitching.


Odd, as the bloke in a local bike emporium claimed they were waterproof...

They're still drying though. Sad
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PostPosted: 07:56 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

richrock wrote:
Mudskipper wrote:
Leather gloves can never be waterproof, it's down to the stitching.


Odd, as the bloke in a local bike emporium claimed they were waterproof...

They're still drying though. Sad


Never believe the word of somebody trying to sell you something. Wink
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

After last week's British monsoon my super duper water resistant gloves are still wet as a (censored)..
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just buy big bottles of Nikwax waterproofing spray from Ebay and cover myself from head to foot after having a shower. That way regardless if my gear leaks or not, I'll always stay dry... Feels funny though... Laughing

Seriously I do get this stuff and spray/wipe it over my gear, leather gloves and boots included (only after using leather proctection on the boots though), it works a treat but does need redoing every month or 3.

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PostPosted: 08:30 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have leather Alpinestars gloves that have a membrane in them and they are 100% waterproof, leather ONLY gloves are not waterproof by any means.

I use the Nikwax tech wash to clean my textiles and then their waterproofing spray, with the jacket hanging in the garage. Be aware though, you'll need two of the 500ml bottles to properly do a full waterproof suit (well, one and a bit but one is not enough).

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PostPosted: 09:53 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Aldi textile jacket only leaks at the crook of the elbow bend on both arms.

I was considering using some sort of glue on the inside of the elbow section, but, without cutting stitching, the lining gets in the way.

Has anybody used a suitable substance to paint on? It can be non-breathable as long as it is fully water-proofing. Copydex/Evo Stik?!
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC Bodge wrote:
My Aldi textile jacket only leaks at the crook of the elbow bend on both arms.

I was considering using some sort of glue on the inside of the elbow section, but, without cutting stitching, the lining gets in the way.

Has anybody used a suitable substance to paint on? It can be non-breathable as long as it is fully water-proofing. Copydex/Evo Stik?!


So why do they call you MC Bodge then?

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PostPosted: 10:36 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found nothing is 100% water proof unless you get goretex items so i invisted in my goretex jacket goretex trousers and goretex gloves and i can be out in the rain like last weeks downpoor and i was dry as a bone
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's nothing wrong with eeking out the maximum life from a piece of kit! Even if it was cheap to begin with Cool
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenny wrote:
i found nothing is 100% water proof unless you get goretex items so i invisted in my goretex jacket goretex trousers and goretex gloves and i can be out in the rain like last weeks downpoor and i was dry as a bone


There are other brand alternatives to Gore-Tex, but a membrane held between more durable layers is the best way to be fully dry.

Nikwax Analogy is different and gets a lot of good reports, but I've never tried it.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

but i think goretex are the olny ones that will says its 100% waterproof as they have to be preasure tested each piece of clothing before you buy it
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC Bodge wrote:
There's nothing wrong with eeking out the maximum life from a piece of kit! Even if it was cheap to begin with Cool


No, I know. I just wondered why you were thinking about using PVA when a few people have mentioned Nikwax. Give it a go, it's good stuff!
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used Nikwax products on boots and clothes before. It helps waterproof the outer surface, but won't fix a damaged membrane.

The Aldi jacket isn't Gore-Tex, I think it's just Nylon that's been coated on the back, so PVA glue would repair the damaged coating.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomsons Water seal is excellent Yes it can be used on Textiles leather etc its not just for brick work ,I have heard its good for tents,rucksacks,golf shoes all sorts give that a try. Now ts in waterbased easy to brush on
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't have to be Goretex to be waterproof....

At home I left behind a pair of rubber overboots , and overgloves, 100% waterproof. I also left behind a rubberised jacket of sorts also 100% waterproof, same with oil skin jackets very waterproof..

The only advantage to goretex is that is it 20% breathable, hence if you buy a dry suit they use for cold water diving like at lake Baikal you will be dry from the outside water , except you will sweat tons and tons...

I have out here in Mongolia a 100% plastic sheet tarp type pair of water proof over trousers they really are 100% water proof and non breathable, hence when I take them off I am wet but not from the rain but my sweat.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some kushitani goretex leather gloves, and though the leather gets utterly soaked with water, and they feel wet and squidgy, the goretex always keeps the water off your skin.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always found Triumph own brand kit to be V good, I have had my jacket for 2 years or so and it has been solid. It is very expensive but you should be able to get seconds at most bike shows I paid £55 for a £300 jacket.

Gloves I went for HG python, have had them a little over 8 months and they have been great. Good value at £40.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont mind the feeling of the wet\heavy glove then just wear a pair of those surgical glove things inside, keep warm and dry (ish).
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mudskipper wrote:
Leather gloves can never be waterproof, it's down to the stitching.

You are right to some extent, but I have found that when it rains if you put your gloves on the inside of your jacket they stay dry longer than if you tuck your sleeves into your gloves.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a pair of Spada Force II gloves which I read about online. Still waterproof after over 2 years.

My jacket is still somehwhat waterproof. Spyke Typhoon. Burnt the back of one sleeve on the downpipes putting the chain round the front wheel.

Trousers leak now. A pair of Army Goretex trousers makes them waterproof again.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 14 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenny wrote:
i found nothing is 100% water proof unless you get goretex items so i invisted in my goretex jacket goretex trousers and goretex gloves and i can be out in the rain like last weeks downpoor and i was dry as a bone


Until it leaks down the neck Smile

Yet to find away around this one barring a dry suit rubber neck
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