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Feasty
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: MOT Oops! Reply with quote

Decided to sort out all the piles of papers at home yesterday, you know the stuff - bank statements, bills, insurance documents, crap, crap and more crap that have piled up over the last couple of years. None of it really important, except for one thing - my bike MOT certificate!

Noticed it had run out middle of June! Shocked Thankfully all the cop cars I've had following me at various times over the past month or so have never run the usual checks on my reg. The bike was MOT'd again last night and I'm making sure I won't forget it next year... never realised the bottom of the certificate has a little sticker you can peel off!! Laughing

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PostPosted: 13:36 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can beat that - I assumed the KTM's MOT ran out with the tax (I've not had it a year yet). It didn't. It ran out in February. I discovered this last week.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the same, MOT ran out on the RS125 at the begining of March and I only clocked on in the middle of May.
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, I'm just a beginner at this!!

Also to add, went on holiday in the car this February and got stopped on the motorway, turns out the MOT ran out the week before and we didn't realise!! Thankfully managed to get it done the day after whilst on holiday... still got the £60 fine though...b'stards... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
...b'stards... Evil or Very Mad


Why bastards? Eh?
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
beanfeast wrote:
...b'stards... Evil or Very Mad


Why bastards? Eh?


Why not? Confused
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being organised, that little sticker gets stuck on my calendar on the month it runs out. Cool
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stelmer wrote:
Being organised, that little sticker gets stuck on my calendar on the month it runs out. Cool


That's not a bad idea. I hate seeing them on bikes and cars windows. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The writing usually fades off them anyway if left in a window.
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PostPosted: 15:11 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was driving my car MOTless for a few months this year too, it's easy to do but look at it this way, it's extra MOT time for free as long as you never got caught Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:22 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure when mine ran out, when I found out it might not have one I naturally stopped riding it until I could get it MOT'd. Currently I'm giving the bike a massive maintenance work through and clean up *write's post with dirty hands* Wink

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Why bastards? Eh?

Why not? Confused

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PostPosted: 15:22 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wife had been driving without MOT for a year - I thought I'd done it, but it was my car I had the certificate for. Didn't realise until it was due again.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel pretty damn efficient now, seeing as my car MOT only went a day over! Laughing

It was purely by chance that I was going through the paperwork though. Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
Why not? Confused


Because it wasn't their fault you were driving without an MOT. Don't care what your reason was, if it was illegal then it was illegal, man up and admit it was your fault and not the "bastards" in uniform. I'm sure you'll now retort it's a silly law, or the car was obviously in a fit state to be MOTd as it passed immediately but that's immaterial, if someone here was hit by a cager without their papers in order then there would be cries for lynch mobs or fierce critiques of the plod and how they never keep on top of illegal vehicles.

Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the way the British police force is run, the amount of hate and vitriol spewed is getting pathetic. Mainly because almost none of the posters here would have the balls to simply turn around to someone in uniform and say it to their face. It's just an acceptable form of keyboard warriorism (new word?).

Been some good posters over the years that no longer come here due to the puerile insults and frothing hate displayed by a growing minority.

Sorry beanfeast, this isn't actually aimed directly at yourself as such, it's more a comment on the tone of this forum in general at the moment. Karma
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've lost the MOT certificate for my bike.

It might turn up when I unpack all the boxes from the house move.

taxed my bike online, and used this

https://www.motinfo.gov.uk/

to check when the MOT runs out. very handy
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
beanfeast wrote:
Why not? Confused


Because it wasn't their fault you were driving without an MOT. Don't care what your reason was, if it was illegal then it was illegal, man up and admit it was your fault and not the "bastards" in uniform. I'm sure you'll now retort it's a silly law, or the car was obviously in a fit state to be MOTd as it passed immediately but that's immaterial, if someone here was hit by a cager without their papers in order then there would be cries for lynch mobs or fierce critiques of the plod and how they never keep on top of illegal vehicles.

Whilst I'm not a huge fan of the way the British police force is run, the amount of hate and vitriol spewed is getting pathetic. Mainly because almost none of the posters here would have the balls to simply turn around to someone in uniform and say it to their face. It's just an acceptable form of keyboard warriorism (new word?).

Been some good posters over the years that no longer come here due to the puerile insults and frothing hate displayed by a growing minority.

Sorry beanfeast, this isn't actually aimed directly at yourself as such, it's more a comment on the tone of this forum in general at the moment. Karma


Plenty of people make Police complaints every year, so this clearly shows that people do have the ball's to say it to the Police's face. I personally feel it would be a very sad day indeed that we could not say it to the face of a Police officer or make complaints or such without being in fear.

A lot of the Police I have come across have been pretty decent, but some aren't and many people on here have come across those officers that aren't.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woops indeed... Shocked

This thread prompted me to check my own MOT and what do you know? The Blade expired in November.... eeekk!

I've been riding the little RXS loads so I've not been putting too many kittens at risk, but I'll be getting one asap for the Honda.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like I'm probably the most organised here, I have one of those cases that when open has several separate sections. All my paperwork is kept in there. So there never is a pile of paperwork to go through.

Also when I get a new diary, I go through the old one and write down important information in it.

Not very exciting to be organised but fantastic for the CV! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I went to Spain on my trip I had a date set in my head for the car MOT running out, so thought I would check it. This was end of June, I found out it had ran out in March so 4months out!

The next day I had it tested and it failed on:

All brake pipes
Front Brake Pads
Rear Shock mount needed some welding
Rear Shock
Rear Wheel Bearing
Full Exhaust (it was blowing too much, too loud, and too many emmisions)
Rear Tyre had a cut in it

I was going to sell it the next month, but the cost of that stuff that needed doing, which I had been running around in it in that condition! I wasnt going to get anything back ...and so it went on Ebay Laughing

Couldn't believe I had been running it around for 4months though, just had a date set in my head, I'd had cops behind me and stuff, yes I knew about the exhaust being abit blowy, and the brakes not being very good but not all of that!

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PostPosted: 23:20 - 21 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was for an RS125, failed on rear footpeg missing? I explained I only had a provisional and I couldn't even carry passengers anyway but he said it needed another one.

I spent most of the day running round like a lemon trying to get one so I didn't have to pay for a re-test and finally got one at some place but it was from a newer bike so they fucked about for about an hour welding shit and drilling it.

Finally got it back and sorted it. I said to him, why the hell does it have to have one if I can't carry passengers? He said, "It's not the rider, it's the machine" which was a fair point. Then he said, "You either have to have both of them on or non at all."

Why the fuck didn't he tell me that in the first place? I would of told him to take the other one off.
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PostPosted: 08:11 - 22 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
beanfeast wrote:
Why not? Confused


Yada...yada...yada...


There's also always the 1 or 2 posters who love to jump in with 'Man up', 'It's your fault', 'Police are just doing their job', 'say it to their face'... etc, etc.
I couldn't give a shit about the policemen who stopped me, it's not personal. Of course it was my fault, I made the mistake but why the fuck should I give £60 of my hard earned money to the government because I made an error. How about giving me a point on my licence instead - I'd almost agree with that!! It's nothing to do with safety or having paperwork in order, it's ALL about getting more money. This government is the greediest government I've ever come across! Everything is a fine, and if it gets them money like speeding, they'll put more in to get more out.
Now how about issuing a warning or giving me 48hrs to get the car MOT'd and then going to the nearest police station to prove I've done it, but no, coz that won't get them their money will it!! Evil or Very Mad

As for having the balls to say this to their faces.. are you fucking stupid!? Confused Yeah course I will, I'm sure Mr Policeman will only be too happy to hear my point of view and take it on board then let me on my way with a smile! Rolling Eyes
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(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 22 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think that with today's computers and all that you would get a reminder through the post just like you do when your tax is due.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 22 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

beanfeast wrote:
There's also always the 1 or 2 posters who love to jump in with 'Man up', 'It's your fault', 'Police are just doing their job', 'say it to their face'... etc, etc.


Seeing as you decided to ignore the clarification and take the majority of it personally anyway;

Two things. One, I'm not one who regularly supports the police and will certainly criticise when I see fit. Two. I may be "fucking stupid", that's a purely subjective opinion and you're welcome to yours but personally I won't say anything about someone I wouldn't say to their face regardless of uniform or position, it particularly grates seeing the insults heaped upon people who in the main are doing a job they feel is in the public interest. Not going to argue as to whether they're right to feel that or not, but the majority of the force are just people doing a job and in some small way trying to make the place safer. The whole us V. them attitude is exacerbating the problems we're seeing, particularly when it comes down to snide and anonymous insults coupled with misplaced resentment. That goes as much for locker room banter in the job as it does for you and me, both sides do it and feel alienated resulting in a lose/lose situation.

If you can't see the point in the fine levied upon those who are driving not in accordance with the laws - one of the few even vaguely sensible traffic laws at that - then where does the line stop? The MOT isn't a panacea for the problems of gauging vehicle maintenance and road-worthiness but it's better than allowing utter sheds free use of the highways. In response to the grace period idea, why should you get one? You've had a month toward the end of the year long MOT period to sort out another test, that's not exactly a small period of time. The fine isn't exactly a new thing, it's not a recently developed cash harvesting technique but a long standing incentive to keep your paperwork in order.

I'd guess it'll go the way Fitzy mentioned in the not too distant future with reminders being sent out. Gods forbid anyone actually organises their own lives, all you're doing is supplying more ammunition for the idea of a central government controlling everything, after all you're clearly incapable of doing it yourself and taking responsibility when you make a mistake or forget.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 22 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a bike with 12months MOT, for some reason thought it had 12months tax as well - 3 months into riding, I found out it hadn't been taxed since '97 Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 22 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
...after all you're clearly incapable of doing it yourself and taking responsibility when you make a mistake or forget.


beanfeast wrote:
Of course it was my fault, I made the mistake


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