Shock upgrade

[tutton]

Well the suspension in my bike is currently got a special shock in it for smaller people and dropepd through the yokes a inch or so, and i really dont like the way it handles. feels quite sketty over bumps and the like, not absorbing anything.
FZR600R 1994 foxeye 4jh model

Is there any kind of upgrades out there, im looking for something relativly cheap to make it handle better, ive seen a hagon shock but he wants 290 quid plus postage for it, or a nitron shock for similar price...
I was wondering will any bigger bike shock fit without much adjustment?, if yes what kind of shocks would i be looking for bikes around 181 kg dry weight if that helps
cheers
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

For a budget, best bet is to get the shock serviced, replace the spring for your weight, however, you're looking about £100 for each of those.

Will feel as good as a new shock designed for you though.
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.

[iooi]

Do you need that short leg shock ?

If not then put a std one back on and lift the forks back to where they should be.

If you do then have a play around with the front forks and see if lifting or lowering a bit will help.
Could be they have just guessed and got it wrong.

Could even be that its set to hard at the rear, or has no fluid in the forks.
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Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am......

[KevTM]

Rear preload whacked right up?

[The Tot]

Get a standard shock off ebay for cheap and service it at a specialist. There's that place in stowmarket that does it, cant remember its name though. Mate likes their work.

I can vouch for the quality of hagon shocks. Might be basic, but cetainly better than the standard shock (i had one on the ZX6R and it performed infinitely better than the replacement rear shock. The quality certainly felt better than the old kwaka shock.

Either way, if you're planning to keep the bike for any length of time, I'd get one. Nitron's prices quote EX VAT so beware. They look nice mind and do springs to suit your weight.
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The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
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[MaybeGuy]

its probably got different dogbones on the suspension. if so, get stock sized ones and thats the rear sorted again.
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[tutton]

It has its got standard dogbones and shock with it as well as shortened ones (on atm) shorter shock (on atm) but standard shock all the paint is rusted off, so i dont think looking at the age of it thats its going to feel much better to be honest.
I wanted something that will make it feel a bit nicer on the rear atm, it feels like im the suspension
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

If it's that shagged, then just buying a second hand shock will make it feel like new bike, as long as the new shock isn't shagged either.
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.

[tutton]

Im not so sure its shagged as such but more feels almost wrong for me, i was the same height as the chap you had it before, kind of baffles me why hes done this to the suspension,
Its so small i can flatfoot both feet with quite a bit of spare room still , Looking at the mot cert it says advisory rusted rear suspension, im guessing that is the old standard spring that is rusty as chook,
Just need to find summin to fit on, im hearing from other forums R6 shocks fit quite nicely with a tiny bit of grinding..
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

Bit of a bastardisation though really. I'd say if you want to upgrade the shock, do it properly. The R6 shock will have been designed for the R6. Weights and all. SV1000 owners go on about changing their shocks for GSXR shocks, but it really makes cack all difference.

You can probably find a R6 shock in better condition than yours though, so might be the best option with price considered. Wouldn't spend more than £30 off ebay though.
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.

[Seb]

The linkages themselves are all moving ok I assume?

With my SP1 I managed to get the rear shock on track simply by twiddling.
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[Flip]

[tutton]

Hmm, going to be hard pushed to find one for that price i suspect, can old standard shocks be rebuilt or do they need to be ohlins or similar?
By linkage do you mean the dogbones and the like? all seems to be moving freely when im not sat on it, but now you mention it if i sit on the bike and wheel backwards i get a squeek out of the shock or suspension by sounds of it. hmm
how should i go about checking it properly?
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

[tutton]

yeah id possibly be intrested in that,
just feels like it isnt pushing the bike down at all, doing 100+ (private roads ) and touch a slight bump or anything and the whole suspension just goes tits, and looses it on the rear will end me up in a (private off road hedge ) soon if i dont get it sorted and carry on
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

As someone mentioned, I'd definitely check the other bears and bushes. Could be your swing arm bearings (among others) are fooked for instance?

Just a case of removing everything and checking them. It's a weekends work.
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.

[tutton]

Cant you tell on swing arm bearings by getting the rear in the air and trying to pull the swingarm side to side like you can with wheel bearings, i had them go on my 50's swingarm, dosnt feel quite like that i think, but ill have a gander tommorow, and soak it in some wd40 on the dogbones and linkages see if it frees anything up a bit.

I dont wanna go replacing bearings and bushes atm, dropped it by accident this morning i blame the shorty sidestand the owner fitted to go with his shock, so it isnt very secure so it went into my garage wall so im now trying to also source FZR mirrors in white (fucking impossible??) and a new screen, and have bought some plastech to fix the fairing its cracked. pah. all these problems its worse than my rs125 nearly..
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

[tutton]

Bike is a 1994
ive owned it for about a week and a half and already know it dosnt handle right for how i ride.
Last owner did all own servicing
Import so owners manual is in some spanky language, my manual hasnt turned up either pah
O well just spent 40 quid on a dark tint screen
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[tutton]

What about this shock?
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-THUNDERCAT-YZF600R-YZF600-REAR-SHOCK-ABSORBER_W0QQitemZ370233023909QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item56339b9da5&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C293%3A3%7C294%3A30#ebayphotohosting
its got a thingy coming off does this mean its fully adjustable?
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Past: '05 Peugeot XPS '99 Aprillia RS125 '94 FZR600R
Current: '02 ZX636 A1P '51 CCM R30

[Chriss]

It's just a remote reservoir. Doesn't have to be fully adjustable (probably will be, most modern sports bikes are).

I'd say check your linkages and swing arm first though. Otherwise you might replace the shock and find there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
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TheShaggyDA: I've got 3 or 4 pairs that predate my wife, so at least 11.5 years old.