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Josh91
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Suzuki GSR 600 - 33BHP Restriction? Reply with quote

hey,

i'm very tempted to get the GSR 600 once i've passed my test. unfortunatley due to my age, it'll have to be restricted.

i was told by a dealership that these newer models restrict very well. Via the ECU, it's really only the top end that is restricted to around 120 mph, which is more than enough for me. But the accelaration is not affect (at least not by much)

can anyone verify this? as i really want to get this bike and i hope it'll take to the restriction well.

thanks,
josh
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

That seems a little strange. Acceleration by definition will be affected as the bike will have less power.

And I've never seen a 33bhp bike that was genuinely restricted do much beyond 105mph. Even so, I don't know why you're bothered as top speed is totally irrelevant on a modern bike.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

really, the top speed doesn't bother me much.

i just want it to accelerate well and be able to over take quickly & safely
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
That seems a little strange. Acceleration by definition will be affected as the bike will have less power.

And I've never seen a 33bhp bike that was genuinely restricted do much beyond 105mph. Even so, I don't know why you're bothered as top speed is totally irrelevant on a modern bike.


My 33 bhp restricted bike hits around an indicate 110mph so 100 - 105mph seems about right.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, that's a different sort of the restriction to the GSR i believe.

how does it accelerate?
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh91 wrote:
hmm, that's a different sort of the restriction to the GSR i believe.

how does it accelerate?


Accelerates fine, well fastest i've ever accelerated whil driving anyway.

Its a throttle restriction and a chip on the ecu which alters fueling.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The manner of restriction makes no difference. Acceleration is a function of power and gearing.

Seeing as the power is 33bhp and the gearing is the same as a full power bike, it should accelerate a lot slower than a full power bike.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If acceleration is really important to you, a restricted 600 IL4 may not be your best bet.
Jap 4 cylinder 600s tend to rev really high and to make most of their power high in the rev range, with not much torque at the bottom end.
By restricting it to 33bhp you are effectively cutting off the top end power rush, and are left with the weedy bottom end.
Single or twin cylinder bikes tend to rev much slower and develop their torque far lower in the rev range, and are therefore far less affected by the restriction.
Finally, a 600 sports bike may look pretty, but as a new rider you should consider that they tend to be track focussed, unforgiving machines with twitchy handling, they may not let you get away with mistakes as easily as many other, less track focussed bikes, and also that they are covered in very expensive plastic that costs a lot to repair when you drop it, which you are quite likely to do at some stage as a new rider . . . .
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 27 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zimbo wrote:
If acceleration is really important to you, a restricted 600 IL4 may not be your best bet.
Jap 4 cylinder 600s tend to rev really high and to make most of their power high in the rev range, with not much torque at the bottom end.
By restricting it to 33bhp you are effectively cutting off the top end power rush, and are left with the weedy bottom end.
Single or twin cylinder bikes tend to rev much slower and develop their torque far lower in the rev range, and are therefore far less affected by the restriction.
Finally, a 600 sports bike may look pretty, but as a new rider you should consider that they tend to be track focussed, unforgiving machines with twitchy handling, they may not let you get away with mistakes as easily as many other, less track focussed bikes, and also that they are covered in very expensive plastic that costs a lot to repair when you drop it, which you are quite likely to do at some stage as a new rider . . . .


We are talking about a GSR600 rather than a GSXR600, and in actual fact restricting a Ducati or SV650 to 33bhp has the same kind of effect, you just get less revs to play with!

Weight is the most important consideration, and as such a GSR600 should be fine.
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