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Sparks!
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 29 Jul 2009    Post subject: Sugar/caffiene come down Reply with quote

I've been feeling really really tired and run down lately, I think it's because over past week or so i have pretty much stopped drinking fizzy drinks, eat less choc and not drinking as much coffee as usual.

To someone so addicted to caffiene etc then drinking less/cutting back would prob be the cause of my tiredness?

Question is how long approx before I start to feel normal again without reverting back to excessive caffiene levels?

Not entirelly sure caffiene is the problem but it does make sense I guess, by 430 when leaving work I struggle to drive home cos I'm so tired! Yet still not getting a decent nights sleep, so annoying!
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 29 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I pretty much gave up anything with caffiene in about 10 years ago after a hot weekend where I drank too much Coke and landed up with my guts all tied up so avoided it for a few days. Found that the lack of caffiene gave me stinking headaches (still get a stinking headache a couple of hours later if I drink any normal tea or coffee), but that explained what caused the nasty headaches I occasionally get.

Since then I avoid it. Probably don't so much get tired as can't avoid it by doping myself up with coffee. Put it this way, when I gave up on a Friday evening I was often driving back 350 miles from Brussels to Stafford straight from work before bed.

Still have a very sweet tooth so not really avoided anything sugery though.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:18 - 29 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basic dependence setup.

Heres some algebraic fun for you;

Baseline + substance = Increase

->

Increase + Substance = Baseline (over time)

->

Baseline - Substance = Decrease

Or put simply, you originally experience some kind of high from a substance, but through chronic use that has become the 'norm'. So you normal state was hinged upon addition of caffiene. The moment you withdraw your substance, you get rebound effects.

Like being happily single for ages, then getting a girlfriend for ages. When she buggers off, you feel lonely.

Anyway, just ride it out.

Cool Ricardo- Takes all kind of horrible illegal drugs, yet has only got hooked by nicotine.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quit drinking coffee about a year ago, cut it all out.

I was lethargic and very depressed for about 10 days, felt like I had lost the will to live.

Then I was back to normal.

I have, however started drinking coffee again. Hey ho.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent even stopped eating sugary/caffiene goodness, but I think I did the opposite and hit a "super level" the other night.


I was at the cinemas, and me and a mate ate a large box of popcorn mixed with 2 bags of minstrels, and a large coke. We proceeded to (extrememly childishly) throw the remainders at my girlfriend and a few of our friends behind us.

We realised after about 30 seconds that we wouldnt normally do something like that. He carried on as normal, but I swear to Lucifer I felt like I'd had a 400 volt power line shoved up my jaxy. I talked/thought/moved faster than I usually do. And everything seemed rather amusing. (and no, unfortunately I hadnt been spiked with anything)



I hadnt had any tea, and not eaten much all day.

Imagine the scene from "Over the Hedge" where "Hammy" the over-active squirrel drinks the energy drink. And the world stops moving.



I actually have no idea how this links into caffiene, its addiction or the after effects of giving it up.

I love caffiene. Love lamp.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the total opposite last Friday night (Sat morning), drank far too much Red Bull, ate too many sweets and seriously suffered for it over both Saturday and Sunday.

Fitful sleep, racing pulse, hot and cold...the works. Not good.

Cutting back steadily is the approach I would recommend (personally), rather than a total cut out. The 'come down' will be much reduced, and possibly better for you in the long run. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fawbish wrote:
I havent even stopped eating sugary/caffiene goodness, but I think I did the opposite and hit a "super level" the other night.


I was at the cinemas, and me and a mate ate a large box of popcorn mixed with 2 bags of minstrels, and a large coke. We proceeded to (extrememly childishly) throw the remainders at my girlfriend and a few of our friends behind us.


Christ almighty, no wonder more and more people are choosing to watch movies at home ...
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stopped drinking coffee years back, when I was in the enviable position of being able to watch This Morning. There was the usual quack on there gabbing on about coffee and how bad it is for you (Chris Steele?) and he said "Coffee actually starts decomposing while it's in your mouth". Now, I realise it's a nonsense statement, but at that precise moment, I decided I'd not drink the stuff again. Now, just the thought of the smell of the stuff is enough to make me gag.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Fawbish wrote:
I havent even stopped eating sugary/caffiene goodness, but I think I did the opposite and hit a "super level" the other night.


I was at the cinemas, and me and a mate ate a large box of popcorn mixed with 2 bags of minstrels, and a large coke. We proceeded to (extrememly childishly) throw the remainders at my girlfriend and a few of our friends behind us.


Christ almighty, no wonder more and more people are choosing to watch movies at home ...


Not during the film damnit. Afterwards, when we were leaving. As if that makes it more acceptable
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
I stopped drinking coffee years back, when I was in the enviable position of being able to watch This Morning. There was the usual quack on there gabbing on about coffee and how bad it is for you (Chris Steele?) and he said "Coffee actually starts decomposing while it's in your mouth". Now, I realise it's a nonsense statement, but at that precise moment, I decided I'd not drink the stuff again. Now, just the thought of the smell of the stuff is enough to make me gag.


NONSENSE!! Coffee is the juice of the GODS. I have just had a bucket full and I FEEL FANTASTIC. It makes a man faster, stronger, more intelligent. To those who fear it I cry PIFFLE! Feed it to your children and watch them become 7ft superbeings!
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 30 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a mild blood sugar "issue" you should see me after a bag of jelly babies, never mind caffine (although caffine gives me major headaches) OH buys me a bag of jelly babies every week, if I eat them all in one go I turn into Tigger Laughing Laughing not a good idea putting me in an open space Cool macdonalds coffee gets me every time.
apparently its quite amusing for everyone around me

sorry I digress, I would expect you would feel like sh*t if you have gone cold turkey with it, but it shouldnt last longer than a couple of weeks at most Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 31 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's the rest of your eating for keeping your energy levels up?
More complex (less processed) carbs should give you long term energy.
Low calorie non-caffeine fizzy drinks might be worth a try for a placebo affect. I'm really like Asda's No Added Sugar Cloudy Lemonade at the moment. One pound twenty for three two litre bottles. Also, they do a orange and pineapple crush or something (fake lilt) that comes in at one calorie per hundred ml - the lemonade is three calories, which is still a lot better than normal coke at forty two or something.
I've been slowly trying to go cold turkey on Coke Zero - getting to bed on time is definitely a good start, but no good if you don't manage to sleep.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 31 Jul 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feeling a bit better towards end of week! Felt relatively okay yesterday but I did drink about 3/4 literes of water yesterday, think I'm not drinking enough H20 at the minute!

Did have a bottle of lucozade today as its friday haha but other than that I've barely drank any compared to my usual fizzy drink consumption..

still drink a few cups of coffee a day though and don't intend to give that up, it was more the excessive fizzy drinks I had an issue with.

Guess I'll just keep going with it and hope it works out good in the long run!
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