Bloody City Scooter Riders!!!!

[Bubbs]

Just wondering if it's just London that has proper annoying scooter riders that seem to buzz round you when you come to a junction. I don't know how many times I've been in a single lane and had a scooter trying to take me on the outside and the inside thinking they're riding a 'Fireblade!!!' What the hell is wrong with these people.

This morning coming to work, I was safely in my lane indicating to go left, as I was about to turn I hear that distinctive wasp sound of a scooter undertaking me to go straight on, almost hit him. I thought it was good etiquette for bike riders to hold their own lane and respect other peoples lanes. Obviously scooter riders go off different rules to everyone else.

Now a lot of people probably don't see them as much of a problem, because they're riding bikes that can easily accelerate away, but I'm learning on a YBR and I have had a guts-full of them little bastards.

I'm not proud of this but I saw one of them trying to take me while I was filtering and I slowly moved over so that the small gap he was aiming for was forced closed which forced him to break hard and almost come off, ok it was a bad thing to do but I my patience had worn thin, and I lost my temper!!!

I can't wait for my bike test so I can leave these parasites in the dust. To all you good scooter riders out there that are few and far between, Get a real bike!!
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[D O G]

Meh, stop whining. Yeah the guy who undertook you did sound a bit dodgy, but then we only have your story to go on.

The couple of times I rode in London on the SRAD I thought it was great fun the way there was just a swarm of bikes and scoots at each set of lights, all trying to get to the next set first, great filtering racing.

You just need to learn to filter better.

[map]

Problem is in towns and cities scooters are seen as just been one up from pushbikes. Not real motorcycles at all.

If it wasn't for some red light traffic cameras I'm surprised any actually stop (like pushbikes don't).
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[Bubbs]

[G]

[supZ]

[Bubbs]

Ha ha, fair enough!! I see what your saying 'G'. I still think these particular scooter riders were in the wrong though.... there's being aggressive, and there's putting me in danger.

supZ you got a good point with the lifesavers, but as I turned my head he was right there. maybe should have looked twice!!

And yes I'm painfully aware that 125 2stroke scooters are a little faster than me, it does my tits in.... wish my bike was a fireblade ........One day soon!!!!

So Cycle paths = fair game (Noted!!)
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[G]

They probably were 'in the wrong' - but in London the majority of the riding / driving you see is people 'in the wrong' .
As I don't ride/drive through there it always reminds me how different it is to the rest of the country.
Of course, nothing like big cities in some other countries which can be quite a few levels more intense.

[lozzypop1]

[neil.]

Not a scooter but today a bloody great big open back truck thing undertook me at a junction and turned right, where I was about to go, forcing traffic on the main road to slow down for it. Morons drive all sorts of vehicles.
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[calyx]

Dont worry, you will get used to London traffic. Bikers are quite different here but it could be a good addition if you did;

mirror check, shoulder check, position to the left, proper shoulder check and turn. You may indicate if you want to.

Ops, I almost forgot scooter scenario!

mirror check, shoulder check, slow down, let scooter pass, shoulder check turn. Don't indicate as you won't have much time to do it.
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[chris-red]

If there is a faster bike behind you and you move over to block them I would happily see you crash. It is dispicable behavour. If you blocked me filtering all it would make me do is cut you up when I overtake.

You basically judged all scooter riders on the acts of a few, what would you say if a car driver blocked you from filtering because a bike undertook him once.

Stop being a knob and deal with it London is a mad house, embrace it.
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[Bubbs]

To Chris-Red

I was filtering at the time on a single lane road with only just enough room for me to go through let alone a scooter... I didn't try and block the guy as he was filtering because I had a grudge, I simply blocked him from being able to take me out, or possibly hitting someone else on the other side of the road.

Read the blog before you get on your high horse.

By the way lozzypop1 where in Wales you from? I'm from Swansea area.
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[nowhere.elysium]

dafyddjohndavies: chris-red knows London traffic an awful lot better than you, I'd imagine, given that he's from not far outside of London, while you're still a relative newcomer, and only on a CBT. He's also got a point: it's mental here - get used to it. Learn the flow and patterns of the traffic before you get on your high horse.

I've lived in London all my life, and the traffic rules here seem to be vastly different to anywhere else in the country. If you want a real shock, ride around in Newham and Tower Hamlets for a bit: since most of the drivers are either unlicensed, uninsured, or not licensed to drive in the UK, you'll get a massive amount of aggressive filtering training very, very fast. Or you'll die.

Basically, my point is to just say: "Get over it". Blocking other people will only put you at risk, because there are a lot of folks around here that will shunt first, and ask questions later.

This is not intended as an attack, just a general straightening out sort of comment - we all know that scooter riders in London are tossers in the majority; pizza delivery boys are the worst, in my opinion. Learn to deal with their stupidities, and it'll make you a better rider, and once you're in a position to account for and give a wide berth to these people, everything will seem a lot better all round.

Then w can all move on to carping about cyclists that ignore red lights, and just how tempting it is to clothesline the buggers when they squeeze past you...
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[Bubbs]

Ok, I see your point.... just stepped off the high horse.

I'm over it
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[nowhere.elysium]

Cool. Whereabouts in London are you? I'm over in East London, if you fancy going for a ride someday - I've not been out on a 125 ride in a while, and I reckon it could be a laugh
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[Bubbs]

I'm in south west mate, near Wimbledon. Ride sounds like a plan. What 125 bike do you have?
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[chris-red]

[Bubbs]

[Bubbs]

Granted I was being a knob.... end of !!
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[andyscooter]

not all scooter riders are sucicidal

i have my moments like all ptw riders but do keep an eye on the road ahead

[Paivi]

[Bubbs]

Ha ha, ok, clearly what i've written has been miss interpreted, or I didn't explain myself properly or people are just giving me a dig.... I was talking about the select few of the scooter riders who are absolutely mental and unsafe.... The ones who you just know will end up causing someone else to have an accident.

I ended up having a rant because 'said' scooter rider was blatantly trying to muscle through causing a potential situation that could have put me in danger and having been cut up and cut off the night before I was in a very angry mood while writing the original staterment, so Pavi and andiscooter I apologise to you for lumping you in with some of the other crazy retards out there, just lost my temper and needed a rant which has backfired and made me look like a dick head.

Most of you scooter riders I don't notice, but it only takes one (usually on a 50cc) to make you notice the riders that are dangerous and the majority of which are scooters in my personal experience, though i have seen one or two dickheads on bigger bikes.

I am still a newbie and I have a lot to learn... Let that be the end of it.
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