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PostPosted: 17:24 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

Hey all, can you see any reason why my eBay bikes are still bid-less? Do you think they are too dear? Or is the market just no good at the moment? I tried judging the price by what I need and comparing to other bikes, They have about 750 views between them but not a single bid Sad


CBR600f

Kymco Hipster

Better photos? Lower price? More information?

Any ideas?

[EDIT - eBay ads changed]
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pictures seem fine, could do with some slightly better, closer up shots of the consumables. Which brings me onto your item description. They are dire.

Tax?
Mot?
Can people ride it away?
Viewings okay?
Service History?
What paperwork?
Hpi Clear?
How long you had it?
Why you selling?
What are the tyres like?
When was the last time the oil was changed?
When are the c&s needing replaced?

Etc etc etc.

Having said that, if people are interested, they'll ask all those questions anyway.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

High start-prices always get less bids.

On the Kymco you're missing a lot of search results by having 125 instead of 125cc, I'd also add learner legal in the title or description.

Emphasise all the good points, condition looks good so play that up. 'Ideal for shorter riders or ladies.....both feet on the floor but also very comfy for taller riders too' etc etc

If there are any bad points list them but play them down. Put them right at the end. 'Good overall condition, small leak in the exhaust and plastics could use some attention, but overall in fairly tidy condition' sounds a lot better than what you've put.

Emphasise the good bit, play-down the negative bits but be honest.

Reason for selling: getting larger bike. Don't make a story of that they want to hear about your bike not your life.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lower starting price will always attract more bids, which usually in turn, attracts more bids. Put a reserve on if neccessary or start bidding a few hundred quid less than you would be willing to sell for. Can always add in the old advertised elsewhere speel and cancel the auction before the end if things dont seem to be going well on the final day.

That and the above comments about the description and lack of close up pics should see more action i would have thought.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bikes are worth approximately half the starting prices.

Thats why you're not going to sell them. £2000 will get you a 2003 R6 if you look around. No one will pay anything like that for a 99 cbr.

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PostPosted: 18:20 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt - attention to detail, doofus. He's in GuinessLand. Bikes go for different prices.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The high asking price would put me off looking at the rest to be honest- it is ebay after all Wink

Also not sure whether you should say that you want to sell them to get the fireblade- comes across as though the bikes arent good enough if someone didnt understand the popularity of the fireblade.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said abiut the CBR600,aftermarket or home done paintjobs are less attractive so have to be priced accordingly.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There is a small hole in the downpipes, and the nose fairing and mudguard have cracks.


Where are the pic of these bits....
Just checked the Used bike guide and your buy it now is top whack. Your starting price is mid range.
Sorry but no one is going to bid till the last min with a start price that high, if at all.
You might get some offers when it does not sell, asking just what will you take for it.

You are also in NI, so have a even more limited market. Are you prepared to say take to meet someone from the mainland.

If you want bidders then you have to make them think they stand a chance of getting a bargin.
Sadly neither of your auctions make anyone think that with only £200 between starting bid and buy it now price.
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still have 18 hours left on the auctions. Apart from all the suggestions already made, do you have any watchers on them?

I have put several items on at the same time and not one bid until the last few hours then they had 6 or 7 bids at the last minute.

People hang on and watch an item, allot of people don't log in so it doesn't tell you someone's watching it so when it comes down to the last few minutes, they try an bid on it in an attempt to win it for the lowest possible price. This usually fails as there's normally a few other people thinking exactly the same thing and it shoots up in the last few minutes.

You get to re-list them for free if they don't sell the first time mate.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not enough info and having 'lol' in the description would put me right off.
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

SavageKymco wrote:
Hey all, can you see any reason why my eBay bikes are still bid-less?


Tell me about it. Neutral

I've had my Pan on there for a while with over 35 watchers and nothing, zilch, nada.

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PostPosted: 19:25 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
SavageKymco wrote:
Hey all, can you see any reason why my eBay bikes are still bid-less?


Tell me about it. Neutral

I've had my Pan on there for a while with over 35 watchers and nothing, zilch, nada.

Linky

I put it down to eBay becoming full of shite that people believe is a 'bargain', and the depression. Sorry, recession. Very Happy What am I thinking!


Nice looking bike Thumbs Up Um, not sure if you edit it, but where you have added about the price being reduced, add an e Smile Might give a better impression Smile
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

ClaireBear88 wrote:


Nice looking bike Thumbs Up Um, not sure if you edit it, but where you have added about the price being reduced, add an e Smile Might give a better impression Smile


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PostPosted: 19:59 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm too busy looking at trombones to buy a bike today.

I'm always in the market for cheap knockabout bikes, but those are very pricey/too flash for my tastes, so I wouldn't read past the price.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
SavageKymco wrote:
Hey all, can you see any reason why my eBay bikes are still bid-less?


Tell me about it. Neutral

I've had my Pan on there for a while with over 35 watchers and nothing, zilch, nada.

Linky

I put it down to eBay becoming full of shite that people believe is a 'bargain', and the depression. Sorry, recession. Very Happy What am I thinking!


I think you are rather hopeful to get that sort of money for a bike that age with 60000 miles on it.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best thing to do is search for your own bike on the usual places, i.e. ebay, piston heads, mcn etc and note down similar bikes with similar miles age etc and price it properly.

Like Polarbear said, wishful thinking that price for that bike.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I think you are rather hopeful to get that sort of money for a bike that age with 60000 miles on it.


Not really, I think Pans are a special case. I've been watching the prices of mid-late nineties Pans with 50-80k mileage and most seem to go from £1500 up depending on condition & extras. Unfortunately they're not as desirable as sportsbikes, so I may have to wait until the right person spots it. Plus, what with this recession that person will take longer to turn up. Doh!
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting prices are ridiculous.

IMO, an ebay auction is not the place to get a good price for your bike - the format precludes it. It is a place to sell your bike quickly.

If you want £1,800 for it, just stick it on at a low start price with an £1,800 reserve. Start it at 99p, who cares?

Once you have bids, then you can tweak your reserve if you decide you just want to sell it.

The lol thing just puts me off too.

I would describe the maintenance you have completed, and a description of the various areas and their state of repair - after all an ebay ad is binding, if you say the engine has no rattles, if the buyer turns up and it does rattle, he can walk away.

You really are giving no reassurance about the quality of the bike.

Interestingly, the CBR description is worse than the other one, but you want more for it!
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had problems selling a bike. I generally start at 99p and let it go. If I want more then I pay the extra and set a reserve. I believe in supersize for a quid. Its worth putting the effort into the photos. You need to make some bloke 'desire' what your selling.

This is the advert for my 1987 VX1000 which sold a few weeks ago. It had a couple of hundred watchers at one point.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280373791560&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT

And this is the 2000 CBR600f I brought. Look at the mileage and the selling price. First time seller, no mot, no tax, poor photos and description. At a guess I could probably sell it for a decent profit by spending just over £100 on it.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170367024403&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Over the last few years I've brought quiet a few bikes on ebay and then sold them for a profit later on, it all comes down to dragging the buyers in.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Why have my bikes attracted no attention on ebay? Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
Not really, I think Pans are a special case. I've been watching the prices of mid-late nineties Pans with 50-80k mileage and most seem to go from £1500 up depending on condition & extras. Unfortunately they're not as desirable as sportsbikes, so I may have to wait until the right person spots it. Plus, what with this recession that person will take longer to turn up. Doh!


Pans are a special case but your BIN price is £270 over book price so the whole listing will be ignored as you appear to be a dreamer.

Bottom book on your bike is £1340 so I would look at reducing the start price to £1600 and then people may start looking at it seriously.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact you want people to pay £200 within 12 hours would put me off.

I'm not paying £200 over the net to a stranger for a bike I haven't seen.


Maybe £20 in 24 hours to cover fees but £200 never.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 25 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, I only pay cash for any bikes I buy on ebay and I won't pay a deposit through paypal. I never ask for it either when selling a bike.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 26 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally ask for £30 to cover the cost of the advert, after that its cash only. Usually if the person phones up within a couple of hours I tell them not to bother paying the deposit. I use it to filter out the wasters.
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