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 Posted: 15:46 - 25 Aug 2009 Post subject: How to drift? |
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I want to learn how to drift a supermoto, intentionally, not just going too fast on the power into corners.
Can anyone here do it?
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Well, linking the two in a smooth movement.
Example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLPGpi7eQJg
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 Posted: 23:06 - 26 Aug 2009 Post subject: |
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I want to learn how to ride faster than Rossi, any tips?
Ok, it's not that hard, but it does take some skill and a lot of practice, especially for the back.
I've played about backing it in, but never that seriously.
Search for 'backing it in' as a start - power sliding out is a step harder and connecting the two even more so.
Do you have a supermoto to do it on? - What, if so? |
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| G wrote: | I want to learn how to ride faster than Rossi, any tips?
Ok, it's not that hard, but it does take some skill and a lot of practice, especially for the back.
I've played about backing it in, but never that seriously.
Search for 'backing it in' as a start - power sliding out is a step harder and connecting the two even more so.
Do you have a supermoto to do it on? - What, if so? |
Supermoto'ed TE610
I've been playing on backing it in, and it's going alright, I got suggested to drop to 18psi on the front for more grip seems to be helping.
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 Posted: 16:49 - 28 Aug 2009 Post subject: |
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Unless you have LOTS of power, its done by putting weight forward and using the front brake ...
As this crazy Arab demonstrates!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJMWWE9C9aU
... your man in the SM vid was almost certainly using the front brake to do what he was doing ...
Here stunters so it all the time (just don't go for much forward movement) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTWURtPJR7Y ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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 Posted: 09:45 - 29 Aug 2009 Post subject: |
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That's doing doughnuts etc, while I'm pretty sure he wants the SM/Rossi esque 'rear wheel steering' thing.
As above, basically you drop it down a gear too many going into a corner, then as it's spins slower than the road speed you use the rear brake to keep it spinning that bit slower than the road speed, as your speed decreases. |
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| G wrote: |
That's doing doughnuts etc, while I'm pretty sure he wants the SM/Rossi esque 'rear wheel steering' thing.
As above, basically you drop it down a gear too many going into a corner, then as it's spins slower than the road speed you use the rear brake to keep it spinning that bit slower than the road speed, as your speed decreases. |
But he is not asking how to back it in, he is asking how to drift it out ...  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Can't believe some of the suggestions on here are you guys on a different planet
Easiest, nay, the ONLY way to drift is to make sure there's a slight breeze and/or a current and just sit there on your boat and not do anything. |
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I thought I'd bump this up as I've been practising a lot.
My rf900 dropped second gear so I flogged it and found a gt550 for 200 quid with loads of tax and test.
Been riding that around while saving for a proper supermoto, and it's getting a lot easier to slide into the corners. I'm finding that clicking it down a gear while at quite high revs whilst braking quite a lot on the front and giving it a bit of rear brake seems to get the rear sliding nicely round corners. I don't have anywhere to practice except on the roads so I'm doing it on a nice technical tight twisty section about 20 miles from me.
I've only crashed twice, both times basically mini highsides (in a way, not a real highside) where the rear wheel slides too much, then grips.
I'll try and get some video to demonstrate, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to where I'd be going wrong?
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| MarJay wrote: | I want to learn how to be the bestest motorcycle rider in history. Has anyone else on this forum achieved this, and if so can they tell me the secret please? |
I want to learn how to not be a sarcastic little man who comes across as an arrogant prick. I doubt you'll have any pointers though. I believe G already did the taking the piss line on the same vein, get your tongue out of his brown.
Anyway, why is this any differernt from asking 'how to wheelie' or 'how to get your knee down'
I've been out today giving it more of a go, and basically been finding it's easier to do it when going into the corner almost too fast. Found giving it a handful more throttle when it starts to 'catch' seems to help a lot.
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