Any pilots about?

[rac3r]

Anyone? I was looking into flying as a career and i'm trying to get as much info as possible, so if there's anyone about any help would be appreciated
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[MaybeGuy]

i have 1 hours air time
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[dextersaurus]

I have about 10 hours.

It all depends on how rich you are, and if you want to be pro or a recreational pilot

https://www.bestaviation.net/art_how_to_become_a_pilot_jaa.asp

You pay as you go basically, it could end up as much as 10 grand.

The good thing is, that when you get your PPL you can buy a plane...

And some are CHEAP!

Dunc

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[Robby]

I looked into it and did a PPL a while back. A fair few people I trained with back in 06 are now starting off as commercial pilots. A good friend of mine is an FO for easyjet, and loves it.

However, first things first. We're in a recession, airlines are laying off, and given the cyclical nature of pilot hiring and firing, a new pilot probably won't have a shot of getting in with any airline for 5-7 years.

A quick run over the basics. Training takes two or three years, allowing for periods of work in between to have some semblance of money. It costs between £35k and £70k, depending how, when and where you train, and you have no gaurantee of a job at the end of it. A few each year get sponsored through the entire thing with CTC - they have to front little or no cash, but pay back a chunk of the funding out of their wages when placed with an airline. You won't get on this.

It's cheaper to train overseas, but make sure you're getting the right qualifications to use in the UK. Some US flying schools do them, I earned my PPL in the US. Do make sure you get plenty of hours in Europe too, seeing as you'll need to be familiar with the European way of doing things to fly here commercially. It's all a bit more lax in the US.

There's a lot I could go on about, so shout if you want to know more. In brief, you'll need to get about £50k, and no bank will loan you £50k for a career development loan these days. HSBC withdrew theirs in early 07 I think. Having spent around £50k and three years of your life, you're up against loads of other people in the same position. You could spend another £20k doing a type rating on a 737 or A320 and try to get a job with Ryanair, but there will be loads of people doing this too.

Of course, if you do manage all this, it's a fucking great job.

[rac3r]

Thanks robby some interesting stuff there I looked into quite a few sites and they are saying everything you've just said, considering the timing and the cost (there's no way I could get 30k let alone 75k being a student ) I may give it a miss. One thing I'm definitely aiming for after uni is to apply for a course in air traffic control as it seems to match what I've got.

I may do a trial flight as well just to see what it would have been like
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[Robby]

If you want to fly for fun then there are ways of doing this fairly cheaply. My PPL cost me around £4k in all, which covered a return flight to Florida, the PPL itself, accommodation, food, drink, and so much poon. I really can't express just how good it is being a half Irish, English accented pilot on Daytona beach on St Patrick's day, during spring break.

You can do a microlight NPPL over here and fly micros. Some of them look and handle just like a cessna 150, with a fraction of the weight. One of them cruises at 130mph and has a top speed of well over 150mph, from a 100hp air cooled motor.

You can get into paragliding for around £3k all in. This will pay for your training and equipment. Paragliding isn't regulated, so you could in theory just buy an old wing and jump off a cliff. Don't. A few people kill themselves doing that and it'll become regulated.


Air traffic control wise, you can do a course in it now? I applied back in 04 or 05, but I think I failed the personality test. The application process is something like 6 parts, only 2 of them interviews, and it's very testing. Again, you'll be competing with lots of people, even more now that it's a safe, well paid job in a recession. The money ranges from around £35k to £100k, depending on where you're stationed and how much overtime you do. Off the top of my head it takes 3-4 years to be qualified, half in their college on the south coast, and half on the job.

[Charlie]

When I get the money I plan to learn to paraglide, looks great fun in my opinion.
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[rac3r]

Sorry I think I made it a bit confusing, I meant finish my uni course (Business and marketing) and then apply for the ATC so what you mentioned, the app process and the training.

What can you do with your PPL?
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[dextersaurus]

[Robby]

I can never, ever afford to fly in this country, and call myself captain.

[rac3r]

I think I need to start working towards the ATC from now until I can apply so that my CV looks a little better Not sure what to do though

It must be so cool though to say I can fly a plane all by my self
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[jonboy1081]

You could always join the RAF and try and get a flying scolarship.

All the best

Jon.

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[mattd]

I've got about 1500 hours on regional jets and TPs, so I can probably answer any questions you have
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