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 Posted: 22:01 - 01 Sep 2009 Post subject: Unruly children get to queue jump?! |
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https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8232633.stm
| Quote: | ADHD is now the most common childhood-onset behavioural disorder.
Those affected have a greatly reduced ability to maintain attention without being distracted and find it difficult to control what they are doing or saying.
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That'd be bad behaviour then?
| Quote: | But the chief executive of The National Attention Deficit Disorder Information and Support Service said there was nothing controversial about it.
"These are children with a disability who cannot wait. You cannot teach someone who is crippled to walk, someone who is deaf to hear," says Andrea Bilbow. "They have a 30% maturity lag, and are emotionally younger than their peers.
"This is no different to these children being allowed to go ahead in the dinner queue at school.
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But they shouldn't be allowed to go ahead in the dinner queue, should they?!
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"What people need to remember is that it doesn't just make it easier for the child and their carers, it's better for everyone in that queue too." |
Oh great, so basically - let them go to the front because if they don't they'll behave like little shits and make your lives misery? Classy.
I may be missing something here, and I'm willing to accept that there may be a few kids out there with mental conditions that mean they don't understand the concept of 'delayed reward' - they should, however, understand the concept of doing what they're told by their folks, and not being little shits to other people.
If they can't go somewhere without making other people's lives worse then don't take them there!
It's yet another case of people who misbehave get more than those who toe the line - and who ultimately end up paying for it all. |
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It'll cause an increase in the number of kids being diagnosed with ADHD.
1 in 20 kids have it according to that article... using my expert medical knowledge I say that's bullshit!!
'Rewarding' them by allowing queue jumping is wrong. I know that the idea they're being rewarded is likely to be offensive to people who genuinely have ADHD, but kids aren't 100% stupid, they'll see their mates getting to jump queues so claim to have the same symptoms.
As kids with ADHD can't wait, do birthdays and christmas get earlier each year for them?  |
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I'm telling you, roll out an electro-shock collar policy and all this ADHD/Hyperactive/bedwetting/answering back/wanting regular meals/scared of the dark/dyslexic nonsense will disappear overnight  ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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On some occasions, such a diagnosis is a label and so, at times, an excuse! I dont believe the problem would be no where near as bad as it is if some of the kids had better upbringings and were actually taught how to be silent and patient as well as well behaved!
Bad behaviour is rewarded at school, they get extra attention and if they are at secondary school, they get to go down to the local college etc Never found it very fair  |
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Also the crazy thing about this suggestion is that surley not all kids with such a diagnosis would find waiting in a que a problem.
Can't we all be left to deal with situations as they arise, not preped with how things should be depending on what bracket you fall into?
Most people would not mind someone skipping ahead if it was apparent there was a'real' issue.
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Drugging them just stores up problems for the future.
I think they need strict discipline at home and in school until they start behaving.
I personally think that kiddy concentration camp borstals would be better than putting them on drugs.
Drugs are fine in theory, but if used incorrectly (which is most of the time) the side effects end up dwarfing the original symptoms. In my opinion.
In particular, the deluded belief that more of a drug is more effective than less of a drug, is very damaging. In my opininon, and the opinion of mental health charity mencap. Getting the right dosage for managing behaviour requires monitoring and skill, so its easier to just whack them on the max dosage which is then described as a low dosage, when it aint, and side effects ensue.
The worrying thing is, a large proportion of the UK population, are addicted to mood altering pharmaceuticals.
In particular, the using of legal drugs for purposes they were not tested or intended for, has a massively damaging effect on people. Pharmaceutical companies take a snake oil approach of marketing their wonder drugs as a cure all.
Recently big drug company Pfizer, was fined a huge amount of money for doing this.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 9 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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