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To pay or not to pay....
Yes, pay for the training!
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Nahhh, you can fail 5 times and still save money!
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ws4936
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Module 1 Reply with quote

Quick yes/no question...

If you passed your CBT some time ago, and commute daily, would you go about getting training for the module 1 baring in mind that the test is £10, and the course is like over £100?

Would a daily commuter on a motorcycle who has been riding over a year need to spend a whole day training on a course for which the test is only £10?

TIA
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be worth paying for a bit of training in case you have picked up any bad habits Smile
Also the instructor will be able to tell you definitely what not to do, if you get what I mean lol
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Ste
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be able to do that without the training. £10 for the test and retake as necessary or £100 for the training then £10 for the test, not really any question about it IMO.

Even if you take 9 tries before passing you'll still have saved money. Laughing
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ws4936
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 11 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just called up again, i had my figures wrong, the initial training for the module 1 is £210 that's it i use my bike....i knew there was a reason for posting this question.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've your own bike (which you do) and you're not doing DAS, then, I think practicing on your own can save a huge amount of money for you.

You just want to make sure you know what you're practicing.
Search online for the layout of mod 1, print it out and take it with yourself to a big empty car park or something similar and practice untill you don't get it wrong Wink.

Bad habits don't really count in my opinion at mod 1, unless of course it means, you drop the bike at every turn Very Happy. The requirements are quite clear, so as long as you get the maneuvers done correctly, without putting your foot down or crashing, you should be fine. (oh and also don't forget the checks before moving off, all the time!)

I wrote down a few things that helped me with Mod 1 when I did it, which you can find here and might be useful for you.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 11 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO worth paying for at least one training session rather than a course.
As with most exams nowadays you train for the test, which may bear no relation to real world experience.
So it's important you find out what you need to do for the test.

Any other experience you can get just by riding and practising is a bonus.

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Aiks
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 11 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didnt pay for the course.

I thought I can attempt test 10 times, and still be better off than doing the course...

Surely you will pass in less than 10 attempts? Shocked

I had some lessons before MOD2 however...
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ThoughtContro...
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 11 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're doing it on your own 125 and you've been riding it a while, you should have no problem with the mod1, so long as your slow speed etc manoeuvres are fine, and you've read up what others have said it involves and know what to expect, and can confidently do all the manoeuvres without any problems, and DO ALL your shoulder checks on the test course as required.

Could save your self a fair few bob.

You could do with some lessons for mod2 tho, as you're sure to at least have some bad habits that need ironing out for the test.
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ws4936
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aiks wrote:
I didnt pay for the course.

I thought I can attempt test 10 times, and still be better off than doing the course...

Surely you will pass in less than 10 attempts? Shocked

I had some lessons before MOD2 however...


Yeah that's what i'm thinking, it's actually over £200 for the course, surely i don't need to ride around cones for a whole day - this must be something for people who have very little bike experience surely.

I have every intention of getting training for mod2, i think it would be silly not too tbh.... but paying over £200 for mod1 with no guarantee of a pass either, is just silly. (if you have over a years bike experience that is).
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure its £200 just for the module one training or does the instructor offer hourly lessons instead?

If you are confident at riding around at slow speeds and slipping the clutch, balance etc then give it a go for £10 lol But the training will give you the added extra of telling you when you should do your lifesaver checks etc. There are though plenty of youtube videos with instructors showing you how its done etc Smile
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ws4936
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: UPDATE Reply with quote

Ok...I just called up the center again, (to see if they done hourly rate) and it turns out i was actually talking to a guy that knew what he was talking about. I have no idea who i was talking to at first but he was WAYYYYY WRONG.

This guy was very helpful and a lot insightful. He explained that regardless of module 1 or 2, they charge £97 for a days training (with my own bike otherwise add £20), and that i would only need about an hour and a half from his judgment from my riding history. So the time left over can go towards onroad training towards the module2. However the remaining time MAY not be enough because ideally you need a whole day training not only for the usual lifesavers, mini roundabouts, filter lights, etc etc but for the locations covering the test - which makes perfect sense. So what i think i'll try doing is take a days training (as they don't offer hourly training) book and take mod1, then when i pass that, take another hours training then take mod2 Very Happy
I'm glad i called again, and got clearer information. The figures i got from guy1 made no sense at all!

thanks for all your input though guys - it has helped!
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: Module 1 Reply with quote

ws4936 wrote:
Quick yes/no question...

If you passed your CBT some time ago, and commute daily, would you go about getting training for the module 1 baring in mind that the test is £10, and the course is like over £100?

Would a daily commuter on a motorcycle who has been riding over a year need to spend a whole day training on a course for which the test is only £10?

TIA


Just passed my mod 1 today, the instructor gave me good preparation for it and i didn't even get a fault. It'll probably do you good.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: UPDATE Reply with quote

ws4936 wrote:
Ok...I just called up the center again, (to see if they done hourly rate) and it turns out i was actually talking to a guy that knew what he was talking about. I have no idea who i was talking to at first but he was WAYYYYY WRONG.

This guy was very helpful and a lot insightful. He explained that regardless of module 1 or 2, they charge £97 for a days training (with my own bike otherwise add £20), and that i would only need about an hour and a half from his judgment from my riding history. So the time left over can go towards onroad training towards the module2. However the remaining time MAY not be enough because ideally you need a whole day training not only for the usual lifesavers, mini roundabouts, filter lights, etc etc but for the locations covering the test - which makes perfect sense. So what i think i'll try doing is take a days training (as they don't offer hourly training) book and take mod1, then when i pass that, take another hours training then take mod2 Very Happy
I'm glad i called again, and got clearer information. The figures i got from guy1 made no sense at all!

thanks for all your input though guys - it has helped!


That makes waaay more sense, because I paid £530 for my DAS which involved 4 days training and both tests, so £200+ for just module 1 training seemed ridiculous.

My first day of training, we spent about 2 hours doing some module 1 practice, followed by another 2 hours riding, them break for lunch, had a look at the test centre where the mod 1 would take place, then rode to another part of town and spent the rest of the afternoon practicing the swerve and emergency stop, and anything else that we felt we needed to brush up on.

All in all, there was plenty of training in one day for the module 1 test, and even enough on the road riding to make you buck up your ideas about how you need to ride for Mod 2.

I would say stick to your new plan and you'll be onto a winner.

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