bike security

[Keir]

Just bought a new house with a garage and stuff....

want to make sure the bike is safe. any suggestions for whats best? The garage is detached from the house but right next to it. its got a normal garage door on the front and a single rear door much like a front door. the bikes alarmed and disc locked. the garage has power if anything needs it.

Anyone use a garage defender on thier main door? any good?
Is a standard key lock and an added chubb lock good enough for the rear?
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[defblade]

If they want your bike, they'll take it.

Whatever you do have, use it and use it every time.

Try not to call attention to your bike..... washing out the front on a Sunday afternoon for example.

I'd consider a PIR alarm system in the garage, which sounds in the house (or even one that pages you).

Personally, I work on several cheap levels of security (needing a different set of things to crack, all a bit more trouble than "standard") rather than one expensive one.
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[Alexio]

I have an Alsatian that goes mental the second a stranger sets foot on my driveway. This happened once at 2 in the morning. I went outside to find one of my side panels ripped off laying on the ground and the other was still on but it was clear that screw driver had been forced in to the lock. Damn thieves! I didn't have anything fancy hidden under my side panels anyway
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[metalangel]

Nuclear warhead (contact J. Kim, 1 People's Plaza, Pyongyang, North Korea) wired up guaranteed to stop them.

Or a ground anchor.
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"A faired bike will get you 10x more clunge than a unfaired one." -Marlboro Matt

[FerretFing]

I use a ground anchor & an Almax chain (with top of the range Squire lock)& garage alarm & alarm disc lock (Xena XN18)- 2nd Disc lock on other wheel - Abus Granite hasp/locks on the garage doors as well.

I live in an area where there`s practically no crime but I`m from a council estate in Brum originally so I`m security concious!

[Im-a-Ridah]

The locks on the back door arent the problem, the way they are fitted might be. Make sure the door is solid and consider putting a steel plate either side of the lock and bolting them together through the door, that will make it much harder to break out. If you do that, also add a higher security strike plate and make sure its very firmly fixed bearing in mind you want it to take a few kicks and hope they give up. That said, if the front door is a lifting garage door it will probably end up being the easy target anyway.

Locking the bike down is a bit difficult. You can chain the front and rear wheels to the ground, but theres not much stopping them simply removing the wheels and carrying the bike out. If you can get a chain through the frame then it will be extremely hard to take, a chain behind the shock or through the upper forks will delay them a bit if they need to remove the shock/forks.

You can make the bike even harder to steal, but its not really worth it considering the value of the bikes.

[B10Hazard]

Tilt alarm.
There good.
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[map]

Just wanted to add much of the same as been posted.

1.
Garage main door.
If up and over fit a lock into the floor.
https://www.insurancesecurity.co.uk/cart/images/ABS301.jpg
only an example, others are available at various cost

2.
Garage side door.
Fit a good lock.
Fit a padlock as well
Fit hinge bolts, go on the hinge side of door into the frame.
https://www.toolstation.com/images/library/stock/images/30917.jpg
only an example, others are available at various cost

If door is only used occasionally and not for access fit hasp and padlock to the inside as well.

If garage has a window fit with steel bars.

3.
Inside garage.
As said an alarm with PIR.
If possible link to house.
Otherwise use the cheap and chearful option of a baby monitor (check batteries often).

Fit and use ground anchor plus also chain the bike up / disc locks.

4.
Other stuff.
What is the roof made of?
My father's was once broken into and his petrol lawn mower stolen.
They broken in through the roof panels and got it out the same way (car in garage at the time).

As said, if someone really, really wants your stuff there's only a certain amount you can do.
The trick is to make it as much hassle as possible so they move on.

That said, in the attempt they may cause such damage that you'd wish they could have just taken what they wanted.
Such is life when dealing with thieving scum.

Just some thoughts.
HTH
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[metalangel]

The only problem with #1 is that it's very obvious and will make the passing charver wonder what you've got in there that's so important you've put this huge lock in to stop the door being opened.

I've heard it's better to not be noticed in the first place (so a non-descript door with all your anti-thief stuff on the inside).
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"A faired bike will get you 10x more clunge than a unfaired one." -Marlboro Matt

[Im-a-Ridah]

Indeed, if they want them THAT badly they will just come into your house and 'ask' you for the keys.

[MarJay]

I've got this:

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/stoppa-garage-security-lock/path/vehicle-security

Its much more subtle than the Garage Defender, and I also have three dead bolt type locks with three master padlocks.

Its a bit of a faff to open the garage but they seem to do the job.
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[Jayy]

I have a 16mm chain and padlock that goes round the back wheel of the bike. Sister has a disc lock.

There will be 3 bikes in there this time next month so need to up the security a bit. It's a double detached garage about 15ft from the house.

Was thinking one of them motion sensor alarms with an electronic fob to arm/dis arm it. I sleep with my window open every night anyway so if anyone went in there they would be on their toes before I even got to look I reckon.

Plus I have a death machine defense system (my patterdale terrier) she can hear things coming from miles away and starts yapping.

I live in quite a posh place though and I regularly leave the garage unlocked and even the house. Not on purpose but just forget sometimes.

[metalangel]

You'll only forget to lock stuff until something gets stolen. My missus' parents live in a pretty decent area yet they had their mountain bikes stolen from their garage, my parents live in an even decenter (it's a word, now) area and both neighbours either side have been burgled.
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"A faired bike will get you 10x more clunge than a unfaired one." -Marlboro Matt

[Ol]

i've got a CCTV system installed round my house and an infared camera in the garage - and the recorder is networkable so if i'm not at home i can "dial" into my camera's and see what's going on (used to work for a security company - so got it all cheap!) i have a PIR in the garage connected to my house alarm, i can set part of my alarm when we go to bed, so it's armed on a night too.. and the alarm phones me if it's activated, i've got a Paxton Access control system on my garage and the gate which would take some getting through.. the bike is chained to a ground anchor and alarmed whenever it's in the garage too.. and on a night i back my car right upto the door just to be sure..

all that, and i still worry about it !

paranoid?? possibly!
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